Give the title to Man Utd now, the Premiership really is so boringly predictable!

[Herr Tubthumper]

You are comparing it to the rest of the divisions where this doesn't happen because the top few teams move divisions because they get promoted. Of course the few biggest clubs are going to finish at the top!

I'm not comparing it to anything, other than something which is dull and predictable. I was going to mention a fellow poster who was born in Hove but I shall refrain.

 

[sten_super]

Frankly, as my team is not in the Premier League, I'm not really bothered how predictable it is. I simply enjoy watching good football and, even if some would prefer to deny it, Man U, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Man C, Spurs and others do play some excellent football most of the time. I thoroughly enjoyed the game last night - United played attractive football throughout and Spurs matched them for 55 minutes but didn't have the incisiveness up front.

This is pretty much my position. I don't really even watch much of the Premiership (MotD highlights aside) - I think last night's game was the first full Premiership game I'd seen since a Torres-inspired Liverpool beat Chelsea in about October 2010. It's the ridiculous Premiership-bashing and superiority complexes on here that annoy me much more than the fact that the league is dominated by a few big teams.

 

[xenophon]

'Quality' counts for f*** all, when you realistically have 3 teams at most who can be Champions, and who happen to have outspent the opposition by HUNDREDS of MILLIONS, then the league as a competitive entity becomes null and void.

For all the cock-rubbing and drooling over the overpaid multi-millionaires at MUFC, MCFC and CFC, you have teams like Stoke who have to narrow their ground and throw mortars at opposition penalty areas, in order to survive.

We all scoff at the state of the Scottish top division, but the PL is only a hair's bredth away from being identical.

The Championship is the best league in the UK, and the 4th largest in attendance in the whole of Europe.

Stuff your Fergusons, Rooneys, Lampards, bent Russian oligarchs, desert Arabs, your Murdochs, your Sky Sports Super Sundays, your total f***ing whoppers in their 3D glasses and Man Utd tops sat in their pubs in DEVON, just stuff the whole rotten edifice right up your arse

Football has eaten itself, long live football

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

It's the ridiculous Premiership-bashing and superiority complexes on here that annoy me much more than the fact that the league is dominated by a few big teams.

I'm not bashing it. I'm simply saying it does not float my boat. I get my excitement elsewhere.

I do look at the top and bottom at the end of the season though..and from my experience it seems to be the same clubs. By simply looking at the league at the end of the season I have probably missed out on the exciting journey all these teams took to get pretty much exactly where they were the previous season but that is my loss I guess. To be honest I do not pay much attention to any of the leagues Brighton are not in. And you all know my views on the national team. I guess I'm a Brighton fan, not a football fan.

 

[Knotty]

'Quality' counts for f*** all, when you realistically have 3 teams at most who can be Champions, and who happen to have outspent the opposition by HUNDREDS of MILLIONS, then the league as a competitive entity becomes null and void.

For all the cock-rubbing and drooling over the overpaid multi-millionaires at MUFC, MCFC and CFC, you have teams like Stoke who have to narrow their ground and throw mortars at opposition penalty areas, in order to survive.

We all scoff at the state of the Scottish top division, but the PL is only a hair's bredth away from being identical.

The Championship is the best league in the UK, and the 4th largest in attendance in the whole of Europe.

Stuff your Fergusons, Rooneys, Lampards, bent Russian oligarchs, desert Arabs, your Murdochs, your Sky Sports Super Sundays, your total f***ing whoppers in their 3D glasses and Man Utd tops sat in their pubs in DEVON, just stuff the whole rotten edifice right up your arse

Football has eaten itself, long live football

Have we not outspent some of our oppostion? Is Tony Bloom not a multi-millionaire? He has built us a £90m stadium with an interest-free loan. There are many, many clubs who can only dream of such fortune.

The principle is no different.

 

[Fawkesy]

I like Liverpool

 

[Foolg]

Old Trafford was like a morgue tonight no atmosphere at all.

People say its the best league in the world, I'd rather watch the Bundesliga any day of the week. Better quality of football, Far more open league & the noise they fans make is incredible.

This.

Cheaper tickets, safe standing, SUPERB stadium, and beer always available (Ok, we have this at the Amex, but still), Germany is by far and away the best league to watch football in. It's also a fascinating league, Schalke and Wolfsburg both recently in Europe nearly relegated last year, with Dortmund winning it miles ahead of Bayern. Four different winners in the last 5 years.

As for the Premiership, i've taken more interest watching the Championship games live on sky instead. Arsenal will be outside the top 4 IMO, Liverpool will improve but not enough, Chelsea look shakey, which leaves City and United. Awfully predictable.

 

[Superphil]

I thought Rooney looked awesome last night, he is so strong, and quick, with a demon eye for the game. If he can keep his head, we may be about to see a true England legend about to emerge.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I'm more excited by the steak and stilton pies to be honest.

 

[Commander]

Have we not outspent some of our oppostion? Is Tony Bloom not a multi-millionaire? He has built us a £90m stadium with an interest-free loan. There are many, many clubs who can only dream of such fortune.

The principle is no different.

Exactly right.

'Quality' counts for f*** all, when you realistically have 3 teams at most who can be Champions, and who happen to have outspent the opposition by HUNDREDS of MILLIONS, then the league as a competitive entity becomes null and void.

For all the cock-rubbing and drooling over the overpaid multi-millionaires at MUFC, MCFC and CFC, you have teams like Stoke who have to narrow their ground and throw mortars at opposition penalty areas, in order to survive.

We all scoff at the state of the Scottish top division, but the PL is only a hair's bredth away from being identical.

The Championship is the best league in the UK, and the 4th largest in attendance in the whole of Europe.

Stuff your Fergusons, Rooneys, Lampards, bent Russian oligarchs, desert Arabs, your Murdochs, your Sky Sports Super Sundays, your total f***ing whoppers in their 3D glasses and Man Utd tops sat in their pubs in DEVON, just stuff the whole rotten edifice right up your arse

Football has eaten itself, long live football

I assume this only counts until we get there though, and then it will be OK? Or will you stop going to the Amex and go and watch Crawley instead as they will be playing in a 'proper' league?

This whole thing is ridiculous. Plenty of people go and watch non-league football, they could quite easily say "Stuff your Gus Poyet, Amex Stadium, Gully's Girls, loud music trying to artificially whip up the crowd before games like some American football game, players on 12 grand a week, new fans who used to support Chelsea and come to games with Chelsea tops on, padded seats and £3.50 fancy pies, stuff the whole rotten edifice right up your arse. Non league football is where it's at, proper interaction with the players, cheap beer, cheap pies, mixing with the away fans and changing ends at half time."

What's the difference?

 

[xenophon]

Have we not outspent some of our oppostion? Is Tony Bloom not a multi-millionaire? He has built us a £90m stadium with an interest-free loan. There are many, many clubs who can only dream of such fortune.

The principle is no different.

The principle is very, very different. We have spent £5million on the new team, I can't imagine how much Man City have spent.

We will be competitive in a competitive league, where the promotion and relegation places are anybody's guess. Man City will be top 3, along with Chesea and MU, that's alomst a given nowadays. There are degrees to how much we have spent in comparison to the rest of the Championship, and to what City have spent compared to nearly every side outside of the top 5 or 6.

Crawley would be a better example than us, and they're on a par with Adolph Hitler in popularity among tier 4 and 5 of the game in this country.

 

[xenophon]

Exactly right.




I assume this only counts until we get there though, and then it will be OK? Or will you stop going to the Amex and go and watch Crawley instead as they will be playing in a 'proper' league?

This whole thing is ridiculous. Plenty of people go and watch non-league football, they could quite easily say "Stuff your Gus Poyet, Amex Stadium, Gully's Girls, loud music trying to artificially whip up the crowd before games like some American football game, players on 12 grand a week, new fans who used to support Chelsea and come to games with Chelsea tops on, padded seats and £3.50 fancy pies, stuff the whole rotten edifice right up your arse. Non league football is where it's at, proper interaction with the players, cheap beer, cheap pies, mixing with the away fans and changing ends at half time."

What's the difference?

The difference is I would soon get fed up of being stuffed week in week out in a league where my team cannot realistically compete. Of course I want to see the Albion in the top flight, but the top flight at the minute is a bloated, overfed Sky Sports joke, and until it changes or the bubble bursts and sanity returns, whether that's a wage cap or whatever, then I'll be happy watching us taking on and beating clubs like Brum and Forest in the next league down, than getting tonked by the likes of Man City, the biggest joke club in world football at the minute.

Who wants to be like Blackpool? Or, like Stoke - who have sold their footballing soul by kicking and rushing to try and not be swamped?

 

[beardy gull]

The principle is very, very different. We have spent £5million on the new team, I can't imagine how much Man City have spent.

We will be competitive in a competitive league, where the promotion and relegation places are anybody's guess. Man City will be top 3, along with Chesea and MU, that's alomst a given nowadays. There are degrees to how much we have spent in comparison to the rest of the Championship, and to what City have spent compared to nearly every side outside of the top 5 or 6.

Crawley would be a better example than us, and they're on a par with Adolph Hitler in popularity among tier 4 and 5 of the game in this country.

So, to repeat Commander's question, will you stop going when we get there?

 

[Manx Shearwater]

The only glimmer of hope that might see United not win the Premiership is that they apear to have bought the world's worst goalkeeper. If enough teams have a go at him they may drop more points this season.

Spurs is always a nailed on three points for them every season so not reading too much into last night's result.

 

[xenophon]

So, to repeat Commander's question, will you stop going when we get there?

No, but ask me if I will enjoy a one season wonder and a double quick return to the Championship, then a car boot sale of our best players? No way, that's not what football is about for me, it's sport not business. BHAFC will never compete in the PL as it is now. I despise these sugar daddy owners from emerging superpower countries, and before anyone says it - Bloom is an old school owner - rich local businessman who is also a fan, and he could never throw the amount of money at us as the ragheads have at City.

I would go, but I wouldn't enjoy this club being whipping boys, anyone who thinks it would be different is in cloud cuckoo land.

 

[sam86]

Premiership bashing, and Manchester United bashing is so boring.

Manchester United last night fielded 6 very, very good young English players, who could end up playing in the same England 11 in the not to distant future, and that can only be a good thing. Manchester City the day before fielded 5 very good English players. I say forget the rest of the England players, focus mainly on the two Manchester teams, who will have a very good understanding of each other, and we might, just might, be able to win something.

GK: Joe Hart
RB: Chris Smalling
CB: Phil Jones
CB: Joleon Lescott
LB: Micah Richards
RW: Ashley Young
CM: Tom Cleverley
CM: James Milner/Gareth Barry
LW: Adam Johnson
FW: Wayne Rooney
FW: Danny Wellbeck

What a team

 

[Common as Mook]

Oooh we all love Man Utd's youngsters..... Maybe they'll bring as much success to the English football team as the last lot did. Oh, sorry, THEY DIDN'T.

 

[Seagull over Canaryland]

I am not a fan of the whole Man U franchise but do agree with the OP that they did look ominously good last night. Fergie has done some shrewd business and already has the foundations for the next great United side. However before Reds fans get too carried away I suggest it was a poor Spurs performance in front of goal that made United look good, wasting several chances of their own that could have evened things up. Wait until a team actually puts the United youngsters under some real pressure.

We really need Man C to give United a proper challenge otherwise the Prem will be a bore this season. The trouble is that Man C have a fabulous squad but too many billy big bollocks who are content to sit on their wallets and moan when it rains in Manchester, so could see them falling short. The difference is that Fergie doesn't tolerate the champagne charlies and keeps the United boys focused. It will be good to see the rivalry intensify but wonder if City will be there come May. Credit to them if they are.

Can't see Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal being consistent enough. I think Arsenal will really struggle to make the top 4 this time.

Contrast the Prem with the Championship where there are probably 6 to 10 strong contenders. Those with the biggest budgets should be up there but some fancied runners will underperform. West Ham could fall short without Parker if he goes. There will be dark horses like the Albion who will surprise the pundits who predicted 12th place for us but we continue to punch above our perceived weight, embarrassing some other clubs that already think they have some divine right to be up there. Thats why the Championship will be so much more exciting.

 

[Colossal Squid]

GK: Joe Hart
RB: Chris Smalling
CB: Phil Jones
CB: Joleon Lescott
LB: Micah Richards
RW: Ashley Young
CM: Tom Cleverley
CM: James Milner/Gareth Barry
LW: Adam Johnson
FW: Wayne Rooney
FW: Danny Wellbeck

What a team

That's a pretty average team to be honest. They're not going to beat Spain or Germany now are they? Not now, not in the future. Not ever

 

[The Auctioneer]

If you re-read this, you might realise how rediculous it sounds. 6 teams contesting 4 places over 3 years. Yes, very open.

Compared to scotland it is LOL