[Misc] Ghislaine Maxwell

[drew]

Maxwell denied bail, obvious really, it will be easier to bump her off if she's in prison.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53403270

The other side of the coin is that if she got bail they would never see her again!!

 

[Pavilionaire]

You feel something has to give. We have a dead Epstein, load of victims demanding justice, pressure from the media for someone to be punished, Maxwel facing 35 years in jail and Andy comtemplating what video evidence might existence of him in flagrante delicto.

Will she throw him under a bus, or will he throw her under a bus? It is a fascinating case.

 

[Jim D]

You feel something has to give. We have a dead Epstein, load of victims demanding justice, pressure from the media for someone to be punished, Maxwel facing 35 years in jail and Andy comtemplating what video evidence might existence of him in flagrante delicto.

Will she throw him under a bus, or will he throw her under a bus? It is a fascinating case.

Maybe the bus will get them both while they're wrestling in the road?

 

[Gwylan]

Andy comtemplating what video evidence might existence of him in flagrante delicto.

Will she throw him under a bus, or will he throw her under a bus? It is a fascinating case.

One thing I've not seen is whether, if there's a case against Andrew, it would be possible to extradite him. My guess is that they'd have no chance - can you imagine trying to serve extradition papers to Buck House? But it would be a fascinating legal precedent.

 

[knocky1]

She's 58 - how old are you exactly?

45 years years ago would make me 14. The age of some of the girls when first procured for Epstein, her and the grand old Duke of York amongst others.

 

[amexer]

Appreciate concerns if she was given bail However see case will not be heard for a year Thats a long time in prison before she has been found guilty

 

[Pavilionaire]

One thing I've not seen is whether, if there's a case against Andrew, it would be possible to extradite him. My guess is that they'd have no chance - can you imagine trying to serve extradition papers to Buck House? But it would be a fascinating legal precedent.

Mud sticks, and right now it is difficult to see how he rehabilitates himself in the eyes of the British public, especially if this case goes through the courts and no one is found guilty of any serious crime. The photographic, video and eye witness evidence against himself is compelling but not enough to put him in a jail cell.

One way in which he could rehabilitate himself would be some sort of plea bargain - to spill the beans, nailing Epstein and Maxwell in the process and so facilitating some belated justice for the victims.

 

[marlowe]

Mud sticks, and right now it is difficult to see how he rehabilitates himself in the eyes of the British public, especially if this case goes through the courts and no one is found guilty of any serious crime. The photographic, video and eye witness evidence against himself is compelling but not enough to put him in a jail cell.

One way in which he could rehabilitate himself would be some sort of plea bargain - to spill the beans, nailing Epstein and Maxwell in the process and so facilitating some belated justice for the victims.

There's no way he would do a plea bargain. That would represent an acknowledgment on his part that he has something to plead against. That won't happen unless he is facing the prospect of charges against him which is unlikely.

The best way he could begin to rehabilitate himself is simply to cooperate with the investigation, not necessarily as a suspect but as a witness.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-secret-stash-Jeffrey-Epsteins-sex-tapes.html

EXCLUSIVE: 'She has copies of everything Epstein had.' Ghislaine Maxwell 'has secret stash of pedophile's sex tapes' that could implicate world's most powerful and 'will try to use them to save herself'

Ghislaine Maxwell, 58, has a secret stash of Jeffrey Epstein's twisted sex tapes, a former friend exclusively revealed to DailyMail.com
When officials raided Epstein's NYC townhouse last July, they found thousands of graphic photos that included images of underage girls and a safe filled with compact discs labeled 'nude girls', according to authorities
The ex friend said: 'Not only did Epstein like to capture himself with underage girls – he wanted to make sure he had something to hold over the rich and powerful men who took advantage of his sick largesse'
They added: 'Ghislaine has always been as cunning as they come. She wasn't going to be with Epstein all those years and not have some insurance'
'She has copies of everything Epstein had. They could implicate movers and shakers. If she goes down, she's going to take the whole lot of them with her'

We shall eventually see whether this stunning scoop by the Fail is true.....feel free to bounce you post when she is released without charge, and sashays up Broadway while the chief prosector mutters 'you're OK, love'.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

There's no way he would do a plea bargain. That would represent an acknowledgment on his part that he has something to plead against. That won't happen unless he is facing the prospect of charges against him which is unlikely.

The best way he could begin to rehabilitate himself is simply to cooperate with the investigation, not necessarily as a suspect but as a witness.

There is one small stumbling block in the way of that; he is a monumentally arrogant ******** who is genuinely affronted that he has to justify himself to anyone, especially plebs, and especially foreign plebs.

 

[Pavilionaire]

There's no way he would do a plea bargain. That would represent an acknowledgment on his part that he has something to plead against. That won't happen unless he is facing the prospect of charges against him which is unlikely.

The best way he could begin to rehabilitate himself is simply to cooperate with the investigation, not necessarily as a suspect but as a witness.

And charges might be brought against him if Maxwell's safe full of evidence is as comprehensive as the Daily Mail suggest.

I don't think that co-operating with the enquiry is going to make any difference to his reputation, indeed I think it will make it worse. Even if he co-operates, it is clear it will be through gritted teeth. There needs to be an admission of guilt on a minor charge and decisive evidence that results in Maxwell going down for the rest of her life in order for people to accord him any degree of respect.

 

[lawros left foot]

With the release of the sealed documents from the Maxwell and Epstein child trafficking case, Prince Andrew could be sweating today, and not cos its the hottest day of the year, either.

 

[Sheebo]

With the release of the sealed documents from the Maxwell and Epstein child trafficking case, Prince Andrew could be sweating today, and not cos its the hottest day of the year, either.

Of course not - he doesn’t sweat!

 

[Lower West Stander]

I know this is salacious and grubby, but I can't wait to see what's in them.

Her lawyers have tried pretty hard to get them suppressed.

 

[lawros left foot]

I know this is salacious and grubby, but I can't wait to see what's in them.

Her lawyers have tried pretty hard to get them suppressed.

The docs have now been released , google it. Maxwell is accused of raping a 15 year old girl, procuring and ‘training’ young girls to be sex slaves for older men, at Epstein’s behest.
More docs may be released on Monday if an appeal is successful.

She has also perjured herself, when she said she had no contact with Epstein for over a decade, when there is an email exchange between them in 2014.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

The docs have now been released , google it. Maxwell is accused of raping a 15 year old girl, procuring and ‘training’ young girls to be sex slaves for older men, at Epstein’s behest.
More docs may be released on Monday if an appeal is successful.

There will be a lot more high profile people besides our thicko Prince Andrew sweating over those documents

 

[Lower West Stander]

The docs have now been released , google it. Maxwell is accused of raping a 15 year old girl, procuring and ‘training’ young girls to be sex slaves for older men, at Epstein’s behest.
More docs may be released on Monday if an appeal is successful.

She has also perjured herself, when she said she had no contact with Epstein for over a decade, when there is an email exchange between them in 2014.

Not sure this gives a lot more info than we already had. Its still one word against another, although the perjury gives more weight

 

[Gwylan]

She has also perjured herself, when she said she had no contact with Epstein for over a decade, when there is an email exchange between them in 2014.

She may have lied but she's not perjured herself as she hasn't given evidence in court, under oath, yet.

 

[carlzeiss]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ell-plea-deal-pedophile-florida-a9647851.html

Prince Andrew lobbied US government for better plea deal for Jeffrey Epstein, newly released Ghislaine Maxwell documents claim

 

[lawros left foot]

She may have lied but she's not perjured herself as she hasn't given evidence in court, under oath, yet.

I thought it was perjury as she stated at her bail hearing that she had , had no contact with Epstein for over 10 years, when her emails prove she has.