George Osbourne

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I've been a Labour supporter all my life but have only just decided to actually join the party. I have not agreed with all that Labour have done but anyone who thinks that life under a Tory government would have been better is either very well off or self-deluding.

I'm 52 and I know only too well that a potential 15 years of Tory government run by Cameron and his fellow Etonians will decimate the health service, cripple the public sector and f*** everyones pensions. These things are important to me and so for purely selfish reasons I will fight to keep Labour in power.

since you've mentioned it, can you let me know how many old etonians are in the tory shadow cabinet of 32, or even the parliamentary party as a whole ? oh and good luck "fighting to keep labour in power" in cuckfield!!

 

[keaton]

3 in cabinet, 15 in Front Bench

 

[glasfryn]

He also told us that a Tory government will make us work longer and earn less so that his party can cut inheritance tax for millionaires and hand over more of our cash to their spiv friends in the City as a reward for f*cking up the economy.

He is basically right though, they have said they want to increase the retirement age, freeze public sector pay (and lets face it next to nobosy in the private sector's getting any cash at the moment) and let the bankers have whatever bonuses they want. Great!

Ok, so what have the tories promised to do, and what will they actually do if they get in power, that is what we are all interested in.

I'm sorry but I just don't trust the tories. I trust Labour, even after everything that has happend.

Can we all remember what the tories did last time?

... as the Tory clown but as a serious contender for Chancellor I think not.
He's fine talking from a script but anything else he clueless, once heard the fool on radio 5 live discussing priministers question time with some bint from the labour party and some chap from the Lib-dems - they made him look terminally stupid which to be fair wasn't hard! he makes Darling look brilliant which frankly scares the hell out of me.

I have decided I have faith in you lot after all

 

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3 in cabinet, 15 in Front Bench

so 3 out of 32 eh ? hardly stuffed to the gills as some on here would have you believe, and what are you on about 15 on the front bench, if you are in the cabinet you are on thre front bench, do you mean there are 15 old etonian mp's ?

 

[glasfryn]

so 3 out of 32 eh ? hardly stuffed to the gills as some on here would have you believe, and what are you on about 15 on the front bench, if you are in the cabinet you are on thre front bench, do you mean there are 15 old etonian mp's ?

that sounds to me like 18 to many

 

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that sounds to me like 18 to many

so you would ban privately educated mp's or just ones that went to eton ?

envy politics of, make a logical staterment out of this jumbled up sentence.

 

[smiler]

oh for fucks sake change the f***ing record , you're rhetoric is so childish, shut the f*** up until you can come up with somehing worthwhile instead of the shit you're spouting at the moment.

Pot calling kettle black!!!

 

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Pot calling kettle black!!!

f*** off

 

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f*** off

Thank you Bushy I appreciate your articulate and well thought out reply

 

[Hornblower]

f*** off

Thanks Bushy
Not that I needed any further convincing but your posts make me feel all the better about my political convictions.

 

[User removed 4]

Thank you Bushy I appreciate your articulate and well thought out reply

no problem !!

 

[Lord Bracknell]

It's a curious irony, is it not, that after the last Tory government spent years trying to persuade us that there was no such thing as society and that the best way forward was for everyone to look after the private interests of their own family, the next Tory government will be elected on the basis of a philosophy that says that "we are all in it together" and we should put aside the narrow interests of our own families - like pay and retirement ages - because smiling Dave and his chum George want to run the country their way.

I wonder how many families will be thinking "Sod that, I'm going to vote to protect my own retirement age, and not put Cameron in a position where he might actually carry out his threats".

 

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Thanks Bushy
Not that I needed any further convincing but your posts make me feel all the better about my political convictions.

you obviously have trouble recognising irony as well as total and utter f***ing incompetence.oh and i really meant it when i wished you good luck in cuckfield, i am ABSOLUTELY certain that joining the labour party will make a REAL difference in mid-sussex, keep fighting comrade

 

[Hatterlovesbrighton]

I like Osbourne. I don't mind that he isn't the best public speaker out there. There are far too many opposition politicians out there that are good at talking it but once they are in power can't make a decision to save their lives.

He's set out the starting cuts that will probably be enough to get him into power. The tough part will be dealing with all his fellow ministers that get into their jobs and realise they can do precisely nothing becasue there is no money for anything.

 

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I wonder how many families will be thinking "Sod that, I'm going to vote to protect my own retirement age, and not put Cameron in a position where he might actually carry out his threats".

not nearly enough to stop a thumping tory majority at the next election .

 

[keaton]

so 3 out of 32 eh ? hardly stuffed to the gills as some on here would have you believe, and what are you on about 15 on the front bench, if you are in the cabinet you are on thre front bench, do you mean there are 15 old etonian mp's ?

That's 10% of the cabinet though, which is a pretty large minority.

You keep on stating the UK is swarming with Muslims and they only make up 3% of our population.

 

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That's 10% of the cabinet though, which is a pretty large minority.

You keep on stating the UK is swarming with Muslims and they only make up 3% of our population.

9.375% actually, less than 1 in 10 . I would like you to tell me exactly where ive stated that England is swarming with Muslims ? certain inner cities certainly are, and id like to see some independent (totally) projections of our muslim population given their current birth rate.

 

[Hornblower]

you obviously have trouble recognising irony as well as total and utter f***ing incompetence.oh and i really meant it when i wished you good luck in cuckfield, i am ABSOLUTELY certain that joining the labour party will make a REAL difference in mid-sussex, keep fighting comrade

Keep it coming Bushy, if anyone can turn Cuckfield away from the Tories I reckon it's you. Cameron must be very proud.

 

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Keep it coming Bushy, if anyone can turn Cuckfield away from the Tories I reckon it's you. Cameron must be very proud.

Phew ! great riposte, I'll think twice before crossing swords with you again.

 

[beorhthelm]

I'm 52 and I know only too well that a potential 15 years of Tory government run by Cameron and his fellow Etonians will decimate the health service, cripple the public sector and f*** everyones pensions. These things are important to me and so for purely selfish reasons I will fight to keep Labour in power.

im confused, or rather you seem to be: last time i checked its 5 years between votes. Are you that worried about Labours result that they'll be decimated, or believe the Tories will do a good enough job to get voted in twice more?

as for decimating the NHS, how? where is the policy that states this? or do you believe that there should be hundreds of thousands of managers and administrator, including but not limited to hosptial art curators? as for pensions, they are already f***ed, sooner we start to accept that and adjust the better. while you might not like it, at least the Tory policy is here and now, not never-never (at last a policy too).

see heres the thing and i gose back to the OP, i'm fed up of what people think one party will or wont do, i want to hear what the party say they will do. I dont want to hear from Labour or Tory what the other will do badly, its pathetic when a MP just spend 10minutes critising the opposition or a govermnet minister tells me how bad it would be under the others. how about real politics based on what your answer to the problems is?

and they wonder why there is apathy.

He is basically right though, they have said they want to increase the retirement age, freeze public sector pay (and lets face it next to nobosy in the private sector's getting any cash at the moment) and let the bankers have whatever bonuses they want. Great!

apart from the date of the retirment age change, these are also Labour policies. its comical people still beating up the banker bogey man, when the rest of the economy has been living the high life along with them for the past 8 years.