General Election 2015

[Mowgli37]

Anyone know roughly when Horsham declare?

 

[Felpham Seagull]

Whatever your political persuasion, it is guaranteed to be a fascinating night and I, for one, can't wait.

Who else is planning on an all-nighter?

not me i have to work tomorrow

 

[dazzer6666]

Anyone know roughly when Horsham declare?

Just before tea on 274-3. Oops sorry wrong thread.

 

[Hampster Gull]

It will certainly not be 1997 all over again. That's when the Labour party installed a Tory to lead them.

I think you will find it was really the conservative party in disguise. Labour has not benn in power since 1979 but they might return tomorrow with their SNP friends

 

[Westdene Seagull]

I know someone working the ballot boxes.

Why would someone on the ballot boxes know how people are voting ?

 

[perseus]

I hope the EXIT poll gets it badly wrong.

http://www.may2015.com/featured/election-2015-what-is-the-exit-poll-and-how-does-it-work/

 

[Bry Nylon]

It will certainly not be 1997 all over again. That's when the Labour party installed a Tory to lead them.

I recall a great piece of insight from a source 'close' to Blair during the Blair-Brown feud that went something along the lines of, "Y'know - the trouble with Gordon is that he just doesn't get that people have aspirations." Brown could never understand that most people just want to do better next year than they did this year. They want a newer car or an extension on their house, maybe a conservatory or just a decent holiday once a year. Brown never got that - it just wasn't in his sphere of comprehension. But Tony Blair understood and recognised that perfectly which is why - domestically at least - he was such a success and gave people cause for optimism. He understood aspiration and essentially out-Toried the Tories.

Does Ed Milliband understand aspiration? I don't believe he does. If he ends up as PM after this election he will completely wreck the economy, reward sloth and idleness and completely shaft the people who get up everyday - day in, day out - to put in a shift.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

It will certainly not be 1997 all over again. That's when the Labour party installed a Tory to lead them.

I meant the euphoria of getting rid of the Tories on election night not the stark realisation a fortnight later that Bliar was a Maggie clone.

 

[Elvis]

I think you will find it was really the conservative party in disguise. Labour has not benn in power since 1979 but they might return tomorrow with their SNP friends

Like it or not in 1997,2001and 2005 the Labour party won a majority (incl 2 wacking great landslides). When was the last time a Tory party won a majority? a long time ago. Even in 2010 the Labour party looked tired and had an unelectable leader, yet still the Tory party could not win a majority. Be honest how many Tories have harped on over the years about ' all those Scottish Labour seats' Well tonight they will probably disappear yet still the Tories will not win a majority.

 

[Ernest]

I recall a great piece of insight from a source 'close' to Blair during the Blair-Brown feud that went something along the lines of, "Y'know - the trouble with Gordon is that he just doesn't get that people have aspirations." Brown could never understand that most people just want to do better next year than they did this year. They want a newer car or an extension on their house, maybe a conservatory or just a decent holiday once a year. Brown never got that - it just wasn't in his sphere of comprehension. But Tony Blair understood and recognised that perfectly which is why - domestically at least - he was such a success and gave people cause for optimism. He understood aspiration and essentially out-Toried the Tories.

Does Ed Milliband understand aspiration? I don't believe he does. If he ends up as PM after this election he will completely wreck the economy, reward sloth and idleness and completely shaft the people who get up everyday - day in, day out - to put in a shift.

Do you read The Daily Mail ?

 

[pb21]

Still time to vote folks, make sure you do your bit to give Dave the boot.

Anyone but the Tories.

 

[Greyrun]

It will certainly not be 1997 all over again. That's when the Labour party installed a Tory to lead them.

That was never said at the time you were all saying he was the new messiah, only after illegal wars and crashing the economy amongst other failings did you lefties try to shift the blame by claiming he was a Tory in disguise. Seems to be a character defect in lefties, the inability to accept responsibility.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I recall a great piece of insight from a source 'close' to Blair during the Blair-Brown feud that went something along the lines of, "Y'know - the trouble with Gordon is that he just doesn't get that people have aspirations." Brown could never understand that most people just want to do better next year than they did this year. They want a newer car or an extension on their house, maybe a conservatory or just a decent holiday once a year. Brown never got that - it just wasn't in his sphere of comprehension. But Tony Blair understood and recognised that perfectly which is why - domestically at least - he was such a success and gave people cause for optimism. He understood aspiration and essentially out-Toried the Tories.

Does Ed Milliband understand aspiration? I don't believe he does. If he ends up as PM after this election he will completely wreck the economy, reward sloth and idleness and completely shaft the people who get up everyday - day in, day out - to put in a shift.

Do they?

 

[pb21]

Does Ed Milliband (sic) understand aspiration?

Are you trying to be ironic with this statement? He has possibly the greatest aspiration you can have; to kick Dave and his Tory chums out of government and clear up the mess they have left this country in!

 

[Bry Nylon]

Do you read The Daily Mail ?

No.

 

[glasfryn]

I recall a great piece of insight from a source 'close' to Blair during the Blair-Brown feud that went something along the lines of, "Y'know - the trouble with Gordon is that he just doesn't get that people have aspirations." Brown could never understand that most people just want to do better next year than they did this year. They want a newer car or an extension on their house, maybe a conservatory or just a decent holiday once a year. Brown never got that - it just wasn't in his sphere of comprehension. But Tony Blair understood and recognised that perfectly which is why - domestically at least - he was such a success and gave people cause for optimism. He understood aspiration and essentially out-Toried the Tories.

Does Ed Milliband understand aspiration? I don't believe he does. If he ends up as PM after this election he will completely wreck the economy, reward sloth and idleness and completely shaft the people who get up everyday - day in, day out - to put in a shift.

then toddle off down to the foodbank after picking up minimum wage
have you ever been on minimum wage?

 

[Hampster Gull]

Are you trying to be ironic with this statement? He has possibly the greatest aspiration you can have; to kick Dave and his Tory chums out of government and clear up the mess they have left this country in!

You may be right. He certainly has shown aspiration with his £2.7m house . Pretty impressive for a man who has spent his career in politics with a bit of teaching. His dad, the marxist, must be proud

 

[Bry Nylon]

Do they?

Yes. Most people want to feel they are progressing and have the opportunity to improve their living standards and the circumstances for them and their families. People's individual aspirations come in different forms, but most of us want to do better tomorrow than we did today - or at least have the chance of doing so.

 

[glasfryn]

for the last few days I have had an advert for the greens appearing at the bottom of my page asking me to vote for them .......so I did
as they are the nearest party to my socialist views and had a phone call from the tories asking if my other half would vote for them ..............she voted UKIP
yep opposite ends of the spectrum ...............and we are still talking it makes for very interesting conversations

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Yes. Most people want to feel they are progressing and have the opportunity to improve their living standards and the circumstances for them and their families. People's individual aspirations come in different forms, but most of us want to do better tomorrow than we did today - or at least have the chance of doing so.

Maybe I live in a bubble but apart from a holiday no one I know gives a stuff about the rest of the things you listed. Sure, folk want extensions but out of necessity as opposed to aspiration. Do people still covet conservatories?