France to ban the Burqa?

[The Spanish]

Wish the same could be said for Luton. It seems to me people don't mix.

Mate you have to just go with it. It's a state of mind. Do you not remember how boring Britain was without chicken tikka masala, suicide bombers and out of control gun crime?

vastly overpriced pokey streets in Hanover are OK anyway, so that's all that really counts if it occasionally goes wrong.

 

[User removed 4]

How did you get involved in that conversation pray tell?

Bushy: "So..whats with the outfit then?"

Mohammedan: "I wear it to insult the Infidels! One day we will claim this whole place for the people of Allah mwahahaha!"

no , in a conversation with a westernised , non burqua wearing muslim woman, as i suspect you know, prat.

 

[e77]

Mate you have to just go with it. It's a state of mind. Do you not remember how boring Britain was without chicken tikka masala, suicide bombers and out of control gun crime?

vastly overpriced pokey streets in Hanover are OK anyway, so that's all that really counts if it occasionally goes wrong.

Believe it or not this isn't meant as criticism, but I am sorry that you find so many things scary.

 

[Dandyman]

We are a multicultural state. It may not be constitutionally written but it has been repeated ad nauseam for the last 15 years or so, as The Last Word in Sophistication and Human Civilisation, rather than a crap cop out paper over the cracks and avoid the question coping mechanism.

It has been thoroughly discredited in the eyes of the majority of the British puiblic as the Emperors New Clothes that it is. But it's still the party line


Do you remember how self congratulatory the British press and BBC were when the French were suffering inner city riots. 'Oh how our model is so much better than the silly French, everyone gets on like a house on fire here', was the tone of the BBC and commentators.

Then BOOM. Bodies splattered all over the streets of London.

So in your world the bombs were a result of multi-culturalism rather then the invasion of Iraq?

 

[Dandyman]

Bushy mate get yourself down Cable Street at lunchtime. There is nothing to fear, everyone is having one big party, pearly kings, burkas and rasta hats all together in perfect harmony. All swapping pie and mash for samosas and curry goat.

Its great. At least it is if you are on the 17.06 back from Victoria.

How long have you actually lived in London for out of interest ?

 

[The Spanish]

Believe it or not this isn't meant as criticism, but I am sorry that you find so many things scary.

what exactly do I find scary?

what a silly snidey thing to say.

 

[beorhthelm]

there is a big difference between head scarfs (or wimples, skull caps, turban etc) and the burqa.

i wonder how we will address this issue if the ID cards go through?

 

[The Spanish]

How long have you actually lived in London for out of interest ?

About 22 years.

 

[Bevendean Hillbilly]

no , in a conversation with a westernised , non burqua wearing muslim woman, as i suspect you know, prat.

Prat? is there any need to be quite so waspish?

 

[e77]

what exactly do I find scary?

what a silly snidey thing to say.

It wasn't intended to be. You just seem to find reason for concern in things a lot of people wouldn't give a second thought about.

 

[The Spanish]

So in your world the bombs were a result of multi-culturalism rather then the invasion of Iraq?

Yes of course.

They were British born muslims with a massive identity crisis. It is the most significant factor in what they did. Any western involvement in the muslim world, they saw as negative, could have been a catalyst for their insane actions, even if they do mention Iraq in their videos.

 

[The Spanish]

It wasn't intended to be. You just seem to find reason for concern in things a lot of people wouldn't give a second thought about.

most people dont give a second thought to suicide bombers and gun crime? Lucky them they must be far more well rounded individuals, (or utterly selfish and parochial, perhaps).

I am glad that these things concern me. I would hate to be someone who's main concern in the world was the amount of apps I had on my iphone.

 

[e77]

most people dont give a second thought to suicide bombers and gun crime? Lucky them they must be far more well rounded individuals, (or utterly selfish and parochial, perhaps).

I am glad that these things concern me. I would hate to be someone who's main concern in the world was the amount of apps I had on my iphone.

Sadly since man learnt to throw stones at other men, terrorism has existed. The fact these terrorists might come from (for example) Ireland, Sri Lanka or Islam doesn't mean everyone from that group is a terrorist.

You and everyone is right to be concerned about terrorism and a mature adult debate needs to be had about immigration, but don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.

 

[The Spanish]

Sadly since man learnt to throw stones at other men, terrorism has existed. The fact these terrorists might come from (for example) Ireland, Sri Lanka or Islam doesn't mean everyone from that group is a terrorist.

You and everyone is right to be concerned about terrorism and a mature adult debate needs to be had about immigration, but don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.

We should start a Patronising Post of the Decade competition today while there is still a chance for others to have a go.

 

[Bevendean Hillbilly]

Yes of course.

They were British born muslims with a massive identity crisis. It is the most significant factor in what they did. Any western involvement in the muslim world, they saw as negative, could have been a catalyst for their insane actions, even if they do mention Iraq in their videos.

Thats a very confident assertion fella. If the Bombers specifically mention Iraq as the primary cause for their desire for revenge why would anyone not accept that?

I agree that there are a lot of generally pissed off Muslims in the population but the 7/7 bombings and Glasgow airport attack do seem to be closely linked with anti-war sentiments..as does the Luton protest.

It does seem to be the final straw for these people, I don't think anyone can argue strongly that other "interference" in Muslim affairs would inevitably caused such suicide revenge attacks.

Obviously the whole cascade was triggered by 9/11 as far as we are concerned but that was a direct result of decades of American/Israeli/British hostility to the Middle East. Basically George Bush Snr and Jnr just pushed the whole thing over the edge.

 

[Husty]

So... the theory is that the 'terrorist bombers' are less likely to bomb your cities if you make them dress in western clothing?

 

[Pavilionaire]

I totally agree with the French government's proposals. After the D-Day Celebration Queen 'debacle' the boy Sarkozy has pulled it round.

Yesterday my wife took my son to Chessington World Of Adventure and he saw a woman in full-length black garb complete with burkha offering a bemused child some sweets. My son said "Mummy, what's THAT?"

My wife was stumped. How CAN you explain something like that to a 3 year-old?

 

[User removed 4]

Thats a very confident assertion fella. If the Bombers specifically mention Iraq as the primary cause for their desire for revenge why would anyone not accept that?

I agree that there are a lot of generally pissed off Muslims in the population but the 7/7 bombings and Glasgow airport attack do seem to be closely linked with anti-war sentiments..as does the Luton protest.

It does seem to be the final straw for these people, I don't think anyone can argue strongly that other "interference" in Muslim affairs would inevitably caused such suicide revenge attacks.

i think he means that if they didnt see themselves first and foremost as muslims rather than british, they might not have felt so strongly about iraq, that is where multiculturalism comes so badly unstuck.

 

[Stoo82]

So... the theory is that the 'terrorist bombers' are less likely to bomb your cities if you make them dress in western clothing?

No, they are less likly to bomb our cities if will submit to there will.

 

[Bevendean Hillbilly]

i think he means that if they didnt see themselves first and foremost as muslims rather than british, they might not have felt so strongly about iraq, that is where multiculturalism comes so badly unstuck.

Fair enough.