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Uncle Spielberg

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These people believe so much in their cause and are so right and just in their minds that they keep their heads covered up and the identity hidden. Cowards, Wankers, Scum.

No justification whatsoever for it.

If the Brit is beheaded I think the pent up backlash from UK citizens in the country who are sick and tired of these people will start and start big time imho.
 




Parson Henry

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Gareth Glover said:
If it is the website to the beheading it is very irresponsible to put it on here. Children use NSC remember. The scenes could seriously feck up someones head.

If it is a joke thats just as bad.

I will not watch it as I feel strongly enough about these retards beheading innocents and I may do something silly if I watch it.

Thread should be taken off imho.


Here here!!
 




El Presidente

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Tooting Gull said:
Don't agree. It's your choice whether you watch it. And this site isn't a kids site, and never should be. It's the single most important thing that's happening in the world today, the internet means everyone can make their own choice rather than a newspaper/TV editor elite watching it and deciding what the public can or can't see.

As much as I love NSC, to say that it's the single most important thing that's happening in the world today is perhaps stretching things a bit.

It may be the most important thing in the bored at work Billy no-mates universe that most of us exist in on a 9-5 basis, but others outside of NSC have probably more important issues than this.
 


Hungry Joe.

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Gareth Glover said:
The USA do a least make the killing " humane ". I don;t agree with the death penalty however. I don;t think you'll find Bush is about to start beheading people on Death Row and broadcasting it.


Gareth please! What is 'humane' about injecting people with a drug that paralises them and then a series of drugs that explode their internal organs? Or passing thousands of vaults through their body until they slowly fry? And this to people who in some cases have no concept of the crime they have commited or are young and black with overwhelming evidence suggesting they were innocent but, hey, there's an election coming up, can't be seen as 'soft on crime'.

I have been unlucky enough to witness a tape of a state sponsored murder. Believe me, there is nothing humane about it.
 




Tooting Gull

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I've chosen not to watch it either, Harvs, but it's ridiculous to start bringing up the bible-belt style 'spare the kids' nonsense. Maybe if more people explained to their teenage kids that this is what man is capable of doing to each other, more would grow up with a bit of much-needed world perspective. And younger kids shouldn't be on here anyway.

Dignity for the bloke's family is a more persuasive argument.
 


Meade's Ball

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Gareth Glover said:
The USA do a least make the killing " humane ". I don;t agree with the death penalty however. I don;t think you'll find Bush is about to start beheading people on Death Row and broadcasting it.

Yeah, the treatment of prisoners in Iraq and the willingness to enter into innumerous wars responsible for millions of deaths has certainly shown us that the Americans greatly honour human life.
 


Meade's Ball

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Gareth Glover said:
These people believe so much in their cause and are so right and just in their minds that they keep their heads covered up and the identity hidden. Cowards, Wankers, Scum.

No justification whatsoever for it.

If the Brit is beheaded I think the pent up backlash from UK citizens in the country who are sick and tired of these people will start and start big time imho.


With any luck, you could even start a race-riot eh Gareth?
 




adrian29uk

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This world is one sick place and if this ppor british person gets beheaded Im sure there will be a backlash. The world is one scary place and to behead a human who is still alive is absolutely sick. I am worried for the future, how far will these people go to get their point across.
 


Tooting Gull

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El Presidente said:
As much as I love NSC, to say that it's the single most important thing that's happening in the world today is perhaps stretching things a bit.

It may be the most important thing in the bored at work Billy no-mates universe that most of us exist in on a 9-5 basis, but others outside of NSC have probably more important issues than this.

El Pres, I can only assume you've misread/miunderstood my post. What is more important in the world - today - then the outcome of that hostage situation, given what's already happened? And what's that got to do with NSC?
 


Tom Bombadil

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There is an element of double standards in this. Reminds me about the furore when arabic news channels broadcast pictures of dead allied troops last year. No such fuss about our TV stations showing pictures of dead Iraqi's.

Anyway I don't think death should be broadcast in whatever form.
 




aftershavedave

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Anyway I don't think death should be broadcast in whatever form.

i tend to agree, but that's my personal choice and i wouldn't force my view on others.

this thread deserves closing if only for the hints of a backlash which i think is irresponsible.
 


Uncle Spielberg

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Lets hope to god they Brit is not beheaded. I was listening to the Mike Dicken show about it and many many people were phoing in promising retribution in this country if it happened.
 


Tooting Gull

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It's genuinely a really difficult area for papers and broadcasters, the conflict between reporting what's happened to the best of your ability (including any pics/videos) and taste and decency.

Another recent example was the Marc Vivien Foe thing. The papers were (unusually) split, some printed the now infamous picture of him in his death throes, some didn't. I wouldn't expect any of them to show this, it's beyond decent for mass public consumption, but I don't feel the same about it being on the internet for some reason.
 




CHAPPERS

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Putting this up on the internet and on news programmes across the globe is exactly what these people want and for that reason alone I believe it should be completely ignored.
 


Pavilionaire

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El Presidente said:
As much as I love NSC, to say that it's the single most important thing that's happening in the world today is perhaps stretching things a bit.

It may be the most important thing in the bored at work Billy no-mates universe that most of us exist in on a 9-5 basis, but others outside of NSC have probably more important issues than this.


This hostage crisis IS the biggest most important event taking place in the world right now, and I think everyone should sit up and take notice, and not choose to ignore what is going on.

People have to start getting serious about our whole relationship with the USA and our foreign policy outside of Europe, and put real pressure on the politicians to do the right thing.
 


Meade's Ball

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Gareth Glover said:
Lets hope to god they Brit is not beheaded. I was listening to the Mike Dicken show about it and many many people were phoing in promising retribution in this country if it happened.

Then those people who swore indiscriminate revenge ought to have their details recorded by the radio station, passed to the police and they ought to be arrested. Utter, utter ignorance.

Would it bother you if a non-Brit was beheaded?
 


alan partridge

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Backlash and retribution against who exactly Gareth?

I'm very confused about that one...can't remember seeing many Psychotic murderous terrorists walking down western road
 
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El Presidente

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Pavilionaire said:
This hostage crisis IS the biggest most important event taking place in the world right now

A classic white, Western view of the world.

Is it more important than the state sponsored genocide in the Sudan, the drowning in floods of more than 600 people in Haiti today as a result of deforestation, or many other conflicts that are taking place all over the planet as we speak?
 


Tooting Gull

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Mike Dicken is a total arse. He is a pig-ignorant, poor-man's Rush Limbaugh, who would claim he isn't racist but spends the whole time slagging off asylum seekers.

How seriously his show is taken is reflected by his guest list. No one from any government department goes on, and none of the Tory front bench. He is rightly considered a joke, and his callers are all chavs.
 


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