Film 2008

[Easy 10]

Every genres has it's pluses and minuses eh. 12 Angry Men is one of my favourite films easily. Just to have stagework and the incredible acting of 12 unglamourous men unfurl on screen was amazing. The crime itself is pretty uninteresting. Just Henry Ford engaging us all with his doubt and ability to place that in his opponents' minds.
I like Con Air too, even if i don't like to admit it. And Teenwolf.
Psychologically you make mention of "obscure" foreign films being not your bag, when all you already know is that they are not obscure because of their calibre, but because of the monetary ruling of mainstream releases. Run Lola Run was cool. You should see El Violin that i saw the other day. Not hidden due to it's depth or zillion artistic layers that no other man could sink himself in, but that it was made in Mexico with an unEnglish tongue and hand.
It's the same as with everything: you get out what you put in. If you follow things and dare to hunt, then you'll find something special. Just as you ideally don't just accept the first woman who happens to fancy you, unless you know immediately she is the real one for you. You look about a bit rather than simply sit and wait for some corporate giant to tell you how she ought to be.
I think now with the increasingly tiny internet-laden world that nothing takes long to look up and discover. But then film is supposed to a passion of mine so i might hunt that bit harder, while with your passions i'll always be in arrears (fnar) and no news story i write from the knowledge i store will be as good as yours.

*waffle*

You speak wisely, bwana. Likewise, I couldn't hold a torch to your uniquely entertaining scribings.

 

[Nibble]

US. If you are really offended by my retaliation then for what it is worth I apologise. But you seem to hold yourself up as some authority on film and for some reason have this inverted snobbery. You assume I am into inaccessable little foreign inde films when nothing could be further from the truth, you suggest I am some kind of film wanker and then get upset by a retaliation.

If, as your PM's says you would like to get me banned permanently then fine, but I would have a little look at the assumptions you make about people before you get too upset by my writings.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

US. In answer to your question, I don't wonder for a second why I get shit on here. It's because people's brains have been numbed by watching gash like Schindlers list.

There really is no hope for you I am afraid. I think for the first time in 8 years on here I will press the ignore list.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

I think your signature is about the only thing you have got right.

 

[Man of Harveys]

Is this a thread about the forthcoming biopic of Desert Orchid entitled "Four Legs In The Air"? *runs*

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

Is this a thread about the forthcoming biopic of Desert Orchid entitled "Four Legs In The Air"? *runs*

4.4 Colin, must try harder.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

1. 9.1 The Godfather (1972) 267,264
2. 9.1 The Shawshank Redemption (1994) 316,072
3. 9.0 The Godfather: Part II (1974) 153,055
4. 8.9 Buono, il brutto, il cattivo, Il (1966) 87,367
5. 8.8 Pulp Fiction (1994) 271,277
6. 8.8 Schindler's List (1993) 181,794
7. 8.8 One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975) 136,095
8. 8.8 Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980) 191,734
9. 8.8 Casablanca (1942) 119,082
10. 8.8 Shichinin no samurai (1954) 66,629
11. 8.8 Star Wars (1977) 231,605
12. 8.8 The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003) 242,850
13. 8.7 12 Angry Men (1957) 64,116
14. 8.7 Rear Window (1954) 78,848
15. 8.7 Goodfellas (1990) 147,896
16. 8.7 Cidade de Deus (2002) 92,663
17. 8.7 Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981) 164,581
18. 8.7 The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001) 275,991
19. 8.7 C'era una volta il West (1968) 44,142
20. 8.7 The Usual Suspects (1995) 186,820
21. 8.6 Psycho (1960) 97,067
22. 8.6 Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (1964) 112,550
23. 8.6 Fight Club (1999) 241,061
24. 8.6 Citizen Kane (1941) 102,368
25. 8.6 The Silence of the Lambs (1991) 165,658
26. 8.6 North by Northwest (1959) 64,307
27. 8.6 Memento (2000) 177,173
28. 8.6 The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002) 227,265
29. 8.6 Sunset Blvd. (1950) 34,267
30. 8.6 It's a Wonderful Life (1946) 72,228
31. 8.5 The Matrix (1999) 259,288
32. 8.5 Lawrence of Arabia (1962) 56,248
33. 8.5 There Will Be Blood (2007) 43,532
34. 8.5 Se7en (1995) 178,884
35. 8.5 Apocalypse Now (1979) 120,287
36. 8.5 Taxi Driver (1976) 99,683
37. 8.5 American Beauty (1999) 202,273
38. 8.5 Léon (1994) 121,708
39. 8.5 Vertigo (1958) 62,151
40. 8.5 Fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain, Le (2001) 121,783
41. 8.5 American History X (1998) 138,902
42. 8.5 The Departed (2006) 152,202
43. 8.5 No Country for Old Men (2007) 79,398
44. 8.5 Paths of Glory (1957) 28,776
45. 8.5 M (1931) 25,543
46. 8.4 To Kill a Mockingbird (1962) 56,828
47. 8.4 Chinatown (1974) 51,484
48. 8.4 The Third Man (1949) 34,679
49. 8.4 Leben der Anderen, Das (2006) 33,669
50. 8.4 Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004) 138,108

Present top 50 films of all time on imdb. A pretty good guide imho.

 

[Pevenseagull]

Dear 2008 film club,

I implore you to watch 'There Will Be Blood' over and over

of the 50 films Gareth has copied over from IMDB I have seen 49 (dunno #49)


the vast majority I would agree are ESSENTIAL viewing, some I wouldn't have as top 50 of all time (e.g Pulp Fiction, Memento, some of the Star Wars films, any of the Lord Of The Rings films - although they are all cracking fun) and there re some glaring omissios IMHO (e.g. Jaws, Wizard of Oz and any number of those 'art house' films that we're not allowed to mention on here because it's GG/ US's thread and we're only allowed to get off on utter CRAP like Transformers*



*a complete piece of shit

 

[Pevenseagull]

When you look at US' list from IMDB it does remind you of how many magnificent films have been made


I f***ing love movies


Far more than I love arguing about movies



that said, 'There Will Be Blood' is worth the entire career of Michael Bay multiplied by the entire career of George Lucas multiplied by the entire career of Joe Dante

 

[Pevenseagull]

I'm sorry to keep repeating myself but 'There Will Be Blood' is quite probably the best film I have ever seen


and I've seen thousands

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

Dear 2008 film club,

I implore you to watch 'There Will Be Blood' over and over

of the 50 films Gareth has copied over from IMDB I have seen 49 (dunno #49)


the vast majority I would agree are ESSENTIAL viewing, some I wouldn't have as top 50 of all time (e.g Pulp Fiction, Memento, some of the Star Wars films, any of the Lord Of The Rings films - although they are all cracking fun) and there re some glaring omissios IMHO (e.g. Jaws, Wizard of Oz and any number of those 'art house' films that we're not allowed to mention on here because it's GG/ US's thread and we're only allowed to get off on utter CRAP like Transformers*



*a complete piece of shit

It was going so well and then the insults start again

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

49. The lives of others

 

[Couldn't Be Hyypia]

John Candy widely accepted to a be a comic great, but none of his films ever rate very highly. I suspect that rather than a Top 50 ever - which is so open to argument - a Top 10 by genre would be more useful.

So you could argue that in the Top 10 Comedies, a John Candy film might get in. You could have a Top 10 Art House Films - and no one could argue about having art house movies in the list. You could even have a Top 10 TV Programme Inspired list that might include Transformers (my 14 year old raves about it - it rather passed me by).

Worth a shot? Might be a bit more democratic and inclusive and could engage more people.

 

[keaton]

Is The Departed actually better than Infernal Affairs?

 

[Les Biehn]

Les, I don;t agree with that. I think the imdb guide is about as good as possible to get an overall mark of a film and its pretty much spot on. With over 100000 votes the average mark does not lie. Schindler's List was pretty much universally agreed as a work of genius and had 5 star reviews from just about everyone so for Nibble to disregard it as a pile of shite is absurd. I also do like hollywood films, Enchanted is a fabulous film, I loved Transformers but that does not make me a pea brain.

What I am saying US is that perhaps you should be more open to the ideas of people who don't necessarily enjoy mainstream cinema in the way you do. Liking mainstream cinema does not necessarily make you a pea brain but at the same token dismissing the idea that that form of film making is formulaic and plays to the highest common denominator is somewhat foolish.

I've never seen Schindler's list so can't comment on it as a film, but once again I don't take the IMDB rating system to highly because it doesn't tell me what I want to know. However given the films you like it is probably a clearer barometer of what films you may like. That is all.

 

[Silent Bob]

Is The Departed actually better than Infernal Affairs?

Of course it is, unless you're a stuck up your own arse pretentious ponce, that is the ONLY reason for liking a foreign language film.

 

[Uncle Spielberg]

Myself and Nibble are now best of mates again I thought you would like to know. We both went off on one and I apologise for being a big child at the age of 45, should know better by now really.

 

[Pevenseagull]

49. The lives of others

all 50 for me then, but an absolute moron when it comes to simple German

 

[Nibble]

Myself and Nibble are now best of mates again I thought you would like to know. We both went off on one and I apologise for being a big child at the age of 45, should know better by now really.

Seconded. Apologies.

 

[Les Biehn]

You're both well bent.

At least I could respect you when you had the courage of your convictions.