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Fcuking Cyclists. Stick To The Cycle Lanes You ****s!



Little Piggy

Member
Oct 27, 2003
215
Ireland
Yeah, I wasn't making the point that cars are more likely (or just as likely) to go wrong or anything, just that in the event of a failure I am less likely to damage other people or property than a car. And that has got to be the main point in having a roadworthy car.

But I don't want to stray from the main, mature point of this thread, that cyclists are cool dudes with lovely legs and everyone else is fat and smells. ;)
 




bhaexpress

New member
Jul 7, 2003
27,627
Kent
Little Piggy said:
Yeah, I wasn't making the point that cars are more likely (or just as likely) to go wrong or anything, just that in the event of a failure I am less likely to damage other people or property than a car. And that has got to be the main point in having a roadworthy car.

But I don't want to stray from the main, mature point of this thread, that cyclists are cool dudes with lovely legs and everyone else is fat and smells. ;)

Something like that with the exception of the little bastards who try doing Tony Hawkes inpersonations on the pavement or the lunatic cycle couriers not to mention the pensioners who wobble all over the road, shall I go on ? Of course, I have to confess that I don't much fancy travelling by bike to work every day, it's a mere 50 miles.

Like I say I don't drive these days although I have to admit that in a matter of months I will be forced to drive a gas guzzling monster.
 


Dover

Home at Last.
Oct 5, 2003
4,474
Brighton, United Kingdom
Sorry to add this but the poorest driving is on the school run, and this was discussed over the weekend with some cycling freinds.



According to Department for Transport national statistics published in January 2003:


The proportion of children aged five to 16 walking to school fell from 56 per cent in 1989/1991 to 49 per cent in 1999/2001. The percentage travelling by car went up from 21 per cent to 28 per cent in the same period

The proportion of primary age children travelling to school alone fell from 15 per cent in 1989/1991 to 10 per cent in 1999/2001, whereas the percentage of secondary age children travelling alone remained fairly constant at 46 per cent

Secondary age boys were more likely than girls to cycle

Secondary age girls were more likely than boys to travel by car.


I walk or use public transport. If I had the money I would be a cyclist or motor cyclist.

I also agree with most of the comments on here re the poor cycle lanes in town. I found when I had a cycle, that by being on the road and using proper hand singles and obeying The Highway Code Brighton was an easy place to get arond in.
 


m20gull

Well-known member
Jun 10, 2004
3,524
Land of the Chavs
bhaexpress said:
Are you two for real ? MOT stand for Ministry Of Transport. You used to take an MOT test hence the name stuck even though the M.O.T. is no longer called that.

Actually, I can't see why bikes can't be safety checked as well as carry third party insurance. Still, that being the case then dog and cat owners should have insurance not to mention horses.
My dogs do have insurance.
 


BensGrandad

New member
Jul 13, 2003
72,015
Haywards Heath
Why should there be a bike lane on the promenade what does the word 'promenade' mean.

Treble the road tax on all 4 x4 that are not used on the land i.e women school run drivers who can't drive the things because they are s..t scared of their power.
 




Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
55,828
Surrey
f*** it! This lack of access to NSC is getting on my tits - a good cycle rant and I join near the end. Bah!

Anyway, I cycle to work and will admit that I do jump red lights from time to time. But it's amazing how quickly people criticise this sort of behaviour when no-one really gives a toss about the quality of some of the driving in this country. I felt unsafe twice on my journey home today. Once when some prick whizzed past me at about 50mph and can't have been more than 6 inches from me. Totally unnecessary of course, as he would have been able to overtake me by crossing into the opposite lane if had waited approximately 3 seconds for the cars coming the other way to clear. Secondly, some total twat who zoomed past me and then turned left, right in front of me causing me to brake forcefully.

Of course, people who park in cycle lanes, don't check for cyclists before they open their car doors, and cut you up by crossing into the cycle lane as if it doesn't exist are all par for the course.

Yet that muppet judge chose to comment on badly behaved cyclists in towns only recently. Very helpful. Maybe I should just drive. Obviously the people in high places want our roads choked up even more.

Oh and popkins, I'm a cyclist and I do pay road tax and for an MOT. Is that OK?
 


clapham_gull

Legacy Fan
Aug 20, 2003
26,412
The situation in London is much worse. I actually very anti-car, because I can afford to be in London with absolutely no reason whatsoever to own a car... don't need one, and LOVE the congestion charge.

However, my well being is threatened DAILY by cyclists as a pedestrian.

I have a ten minute walk every morning and evening from the tube station and have to cross a very busy road. I have done this walk for about 5 years and I can honestly say that I have NEVER seen a cyclist stop at a red light.

Its really dangerous, you're half way across the street - a f*cking cyclist cuts across you - you pause and then have to race across the rest of the road and the lights go to amber.

At work I cross a fairly quiet road to get some lunch, and the same thing happens, but thats even more dangerous because the cyclists don't even bother to look where they're going at all.

Many people I work with cycle to work and they admit to doing the same, and guess what - most of them own cars as well.

Today, I was crossing the road in Camden at a Junction, and a cyclist came on to pavement in front of me at a box junction rather them than wait at the lights.

F*ck day-glo, mountain biking, oooh aren't my thighs well toned cyclists rights, what about pedestrians rights !!!
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
55,828
Surrey
clapham_gull said:
The situation in London is much worse. I actually very anti-car, because I can afford to be in London with absolutely no reason whatsoever to own a car... don't need one, and LOVE the congestion charge.

However, my well being is threatened DAILY by cyclists as a pedestrian.

I have a ten minute walk every morning and evening from the tube station and have to cross a very busy road. I have done this walk for about 5 years and I can honestly say that I have NEVER seen a cyclist stop at a red light.

Its really dangerous, you're half way across the street - a f*cking cyclist cuts across you - you pause and then have to race across the rest of the road and the lights go to amber.

At work I cross a fairly quiet road to get some lunch, and the same thing happens, but thats even more dangerous because the cyclists don't even bother to look where they're going at all.

Many people I work with cycle to work and they admit to doing the same, and guess what - most of them own cars as well.

Today, I was crossing the road in Camden at a Junction, and a cyclist came on to pavement in front of me at a box junction rather them than wait at the lights.

F*ck day-glo, mountain biking, oooh aren't my thighs well toned cyclists rights, what about pedestrians rights !!!
Poof. :lolol:

(I'm probably one of the evil cyclists you refer to as I cycle up Clapham Highstreet every day)
 




smudge

Up the Albion!
Jul 8, 2003
7,407
On the ocean wave
When I'm a pedestrian I hate cyclists & motorists.
When I'm in the car I hate cyclists & pedestrians.

:drink:
 


clapham_gull

Legacy Fan
Aug 20, 2003
26,412
Simster said:
Poof. :lolol:

(I'm probably one of the evil cyclists you refer to as I cycle up Clapham Highstreet every day)


:glare: :glare: :glare:

You see that's just my point and is usual of the sort of response I get from cyclists.

Selfish individualism and just as bad as motorists in London - except they believe they have the moral high ground.

Another usual response - well you'll probably won't get killed if a cycle hits you, but what if the cyclist pushed me into the path of a car ?

I was almost hit by a car because of a cyclist going through a red light. My girlfriend was knocked sideways (when she was on crutches) by a cyclist going through a red light on a crossing.

They don't seem to realise that pedestrians are in danger of motorists just as they are, but their actions particularly at pedestrians crossing highten the likelihood of a pedestrian getting hit.

I'm not anti-cyclists at all !!! I wish you had more cycle lanes, I could avoid you then.

Just f*cking learn how to ride a bike, and er.. red lights mean stop and pavements are for pedestrians.
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
55,828
Surrey
clapham_gull said:


I'm not anti-cyclists at all !!! I wish you had more cycle lanes, I could avoid you then.
You could avoid me by simply not being on Clapham High St at 8.30 in the morning or 7 at night. There you go - no need to thank me.

clapham_gull said:
Just f*cking learn how to ride a bike, and er.. red lights mean stop and pavements are for pedestrians.
I do respect red lights most of the time, but sometimes I'll admit the temptation is too great. I still maintain that it is a trivial offence on a bike which is not in itself a killing machine. So many other offences on the road go unpunished that it amazes me that cyclists get such a rough ride.
 






clapham_gull

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Aug 20, 2003
26,412
But I'm getting my own back - I've realised what really pisses them off, having to stop and start again.

:lolol: :lol: :lol:

So on a quiet crossing when the man as gone green I proceed as is my right of way to the other side. Along comes a cyclist who thinks he can beat me (even though his light is red) , so I speed up (not so to run) but to ensure that the cyclist has to stop...

and they hate it, really, really hate it.

I'm actually been sworn at for doing this a few times, but its my right of way.
 


clapham_gull

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Aug 20, 2003
26,412
Simster said:
You could avoid me by simply not being on Clapham High St at 8.30 in the morning or 7 at night. There you go - no need to thank me.

I do respect red lights most of the time, but sometimes I'll admit the temptation is too great. I still maintain that it is a trivial offence on a bike which is not in itself a killing machine. So many other offences on the road go unpunished that it amazes me that cyclists get such a rough ride.

I loathe the culture of the car, whilst knowing that I am extremely lucky living somewhere where I don't need one.

I understand that as a cyclist you are in constant danger from the some of the arsesoles who insist on driving to work in London.

(ok some people need to, but I saw an amazing bit of footage by Jeremy Clarkson of all people recently when he sat by a motoway for half an hour and not ONE car had more then ONE person it in - amazing....

As a regular user of public transport, the only time I openly applaud the police is when they catch motorists drving in the bus lane up between Clapham High Street and Stockwell. That is so selfish......)

However, in your war with the motorists who have forgotting the innocent pedestrian caught in the crossfire :lolol: :lolol: :lolol:

Incidently (and I calmed down a bit now) why do cyclists constantly go through red lights, does it make you feel a bit safer getting a head start on the cars. What's the point? In a matter of seconds there are chasing up your behind.
 




Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
55,828
Surrey
clapham_gull said:
However, in your war with the motorists who have forgotting the innocent pedestrian caught in the crossfire :lolol: :lolol: :lolol:

Incidently (and I calmed down a bit now) why do cyclists constantly go through red lights, does it make you feel a bit safer getting a head start on the cars. What's the point? In a matter of seconds there are chasing up your behind.
Two reasons:

I want to get to my destination as quickly as possible. For every minute under 55 I can ride Wimbledon to St Pauls, I have more reason to feel smug. It takes 55 minutes on the tube or train/tube from door to door - at the moment I'm doing the journey in 35 minutes. Marvellous scenes.

Secondly, it's a total pain stopping on a bike. I will always stop unless the lights are in the middle of transferring to the other direction - there is usually that bit of time I can nip through, although I'll never do so at the expense of the pedestrians, or at least I like to think that is the case.

Bikes absolutely rule in London though. They look cool, they make getting about in central London for lunchtime meetings with your mates that much easier, you benefit from the glorious sunshine when it's out, you benefit from exposure to real day light (that's a big plus for your state of mind if you're about to spend all day in an office), and you don't have to pay £100 a month or whatever on hot, crowded and basically shit public transport.

Most people don't need their cars in London. Pick on these stupid fat tossers instead.
 


clapham_gull

Legacy Fan
Aug 20, 2003
26,412
Unfortunately, motorists don't give me any grief because I actively avoid them and actively avoid even getting in a car.

I haven't sat in a car for WEEKS.

I'm sure you don't go through many red lights at crossings, but in my experience most cyclists do. I'm not picking on cyclists but I can see and hear cars coming, and a lot of cyclists (obviously not yourself) forget that a third group of people are also trying to go about their business.

I would TRIPLE the congestion charge in London and introduce more cycle lanes and plough the rest into public transport.

Because in all honestly, I believe my safety and yours would be increased by cyclists having somewhere to ride away from motorists.

I would actually ban mopeds entirely on the basis that Jamie Oliver rides one.

Incidently, I am very lucky with public transport, because I work in Clapham (walk to Stockwell) and work in Camden (one stop from Euston) I use the Victoria Line every day and ALWAYS get a seat. I'm actually undergound for about 25 minutes max.

Wimbledon to St.Pauls is a bitch of a journey by public transport, so I can understand why you ride.
 


Donny Osmond

New member
Jul 6, 2003
618
I cycle 2 miles to work every day. I only go through red lights If they have just changed(you have got about 10 seconds til the opposite set changes to green) or If I am turning left at a t-junction becuase I wouldn't be interfering with other road users.
I allways check for pedestrians.
 


Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
32,136
Uffern
Simster said:


(I'm probably one of the evil cyclists you refer to as I cycle up Clapham Highstreet every day)

Were you the cyclist in the stripes who cycled past me in Balham High Road this evening?

I, of course, stopped at the red light but someone in a Seagulls shirt whizzed past me.
 




perseus

Broad Blue & White stripe
Jul 5, 2003
23,467
Sūþseaxna
Being a pedestrian is even more dangerous than being a cyclist. The danger comes from the motorists running down pedestrians.

Are pavements for driving on?

I see hundreds more cars on the pavement than cycles. How do think they got there? By magic? I suspect the drivers drove their cars on to the pavement.

I do not think cyclists are any better than drivers. There are just more cars and when they hiot you they cause more damage!

Get real. Cyclists are nuisance at worst. Motorists can be a menace!
 


clapham_gull

Legacy Fan
Aug 20, 2003
26,412
Cyclists don't rule in London, the moral hierachy exists as follows

1. Pedestrians

2. ScooterMan (anyone willing to do that deserves a knighthood)

4. Buses

5. Bicycles

6. Mopeds ( because of celebrity chefs )

7. Skateboards (on pavements, especially when used by someone over 30, wearing snow boarding gear from Covent Garden in the artic wasteland of Camden)

8. Scooters, saw some dick head in Clapham using one going approximately the same speed as me, but using twice the effort on the pavement. Will end up with one leg significantly shorter than the other, but significantly better developed.

9. CARS !!! - why?
 


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