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Fcuking Cyclists. Stick To The Cycle Lanes You ****s!



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He did very well and was in contention on the last day at troon
 




CHAPPERS

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Jul 5, 2003
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It's an argument that nobody is ever going to win. There are those drivers than ignore the fact that cyclists exist and there are cyclists that refuse to believe that there are laws to the roads and that they should obey them too.
 


The Large One

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Jul 7, 2003
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It would cost a fortune, but I agree with Anthony Seldon, headmaster of Brighton College. Put all the traffic on the seafront underground (like in Marseille), and have the top road as pedestrian / cycle way.
 
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Meade's Ball

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Jul 7, 2003
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Of course cyclists should obey the laws, but they should be thoroughly encouraged and supported because they are not destroying the bloody planet.
 




CHAPPERS

DISCO SPENG
Jul 5, 2003
45,283
Meade's_Ball said:
Of course cyclists should obey the laws, but they should be thoroughly encouraged and supported because they are not destroying the bloody planet.

Agreed. I have a lot of respect for cyclists. If only I wasn't so lazy.
:rolleyes:
 


bhaexpress

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Jul 7, 2003
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Meade's_Ball said:
Of course cyclists should obey the laws, but they should be thoroughly encouraged and supported because they are not destroying the bloody planet.

Butthey should be discouraged from riding on the pavement and should obey signals. Anybody who has been in central London during the day will tell about cycle couriers who seem to oblivious to the Highway Code.
 


Jul 20, 2003
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Man of Harveys said:
Although the fact that there's a cycle lane along the seafront at all is an improvement - as a regular user of it, I actually quite enjoy snarling at the fat ugly Cockney children who clutch their gaudy and highly-flammable toys off the Palace Pier as they wobble around in it.

that pretty much sums it up for me
 




perseus

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Jul 5, 2003
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Cycling is not dangerous so why are they five times more likely to have an accident travelling the same distance as motorists?

That's easy, it is because they are run down by cars and lorries with the vehicle driver being at fault in six out of seven cases.
 


The Large One

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Jul 7, 2003
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bhaexpress said:
Butthey should be discouraged from riding on the pavement and should obey signals. Anybody who has been in central London during the day will tell about cycle couriers who seem to oblivious to the Highway Code.

Yeah, but Londoners are well wierd. And mad.

The main problem is down to our transport policies of the past 40-odd years. The Government had a massive road-building programme for both towns & cities, and for the road between them (motorways. trunk roads etc).

When it came to town planning, cyclists just were not a consideration, especially when it came to 'old' parts of the town. Some newer towns have cycle paths, but not that many. To compound this, when the Tories came to power, Thatcher made it plain that she detested public transport. 'Anyone under the age of 30 who doesn't have a car can consider themselves a failure...' I am paraphrasing but that was the gist.

As a result, up went private car usage, and that usage has gone up without any signs of it diminishing. Cyclists were (and looking at this board, still are) a lesser species on the road. We have a mindset in this country that we MUST drive everywhere, even if it is only the half a mile journey to work. It's all self, self, self.

Only token efforts have been made to address this, but it really needs a major push to convince people of the benefits of cycling. There is a desire for Brighton to accommodate cyclists, but, amongst other things, because so many daytrippers come to the city IN THEIR CARS, and hardly any use the Park & Ride (self, self, self), the centre gets clogged up in no time, making it dangerous to cycle.

And fear of cycling on our roads is what is making it so difficult to get people on their bikes in the first place.
 
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Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
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If you're crossing the road as a pedestrian to get to the seafront at Brighton you have to:

a) look both ways at the kerb (or wait for the green man)

b) wait in the central holding pen

c) repeat a)

d) hover on a three inch strip of kerb on the other side of the road and look both ways to ensure you don't get run down by a self-righteous cyclist in the cycle lane.

It's bolleaux basically.

Sooner the promenade is reclaimed for pedestrians the better.
 
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Meade's Ball

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Jul 7, 2003
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bhaexpress said:
Butthey should be discouraged from riding on the pavement and should obey signals. Anybody who has been in central London during the day will tell about cycle couriers who seem to oblivious to the Highway Code.


I'd suggest you watch out more for taxis and buses.
 


Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
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The Large One said:
Yeah, but Londoners are well wierd. And mad.

The main problem is down to our transport policies of the past 40-odd years. The Government had a massive road-building programme for both towns & cities, and for the road between them (motorways. trunk roads etc).

When it came to town planning, cyclists just were not a consideration, especially when it came to 'old' parts of the town. Some newer towns have cycle paths, but not that many. To compound this, when the Tories came to power, Thatcher made it plain that she detested public transport. 'Anyone under the age of 30 who doesn't have a car can consider themselves a failure...' I am paraphrasing but that was the gist.

As a result, up went private car usage, and that usage has gone up without any signs of it diminishing. Cyclists were (and looking at this board, still are) a lesser species on the road. We have a mindset in this country that we MUST drive everywhere, even if it is only the half a mile journey to work. It's all self, self, self.

Only token efforts have been made to address this, but it really needs a major push to convince people of the benefits of cycling. There is a desire for Brighton to accommodate cyclists, but, amongst other things, because so many daytrippers come to the city IN THEIR CARS, and hardly any use the Park & Ride (self, self, self), the centre gets clogged up in no time, making it dangerous to cycle.

And fear of cycling on our roads is what is making it so difficult to get people on their bikes in the first place.

Absolutely right TLO. I think the Thatcher quote was "anyone who uses a bus is a failure" but that's even worse.; we must be the only country in Europe that looks down in its nose at public transport.

Our transport policies are mad. If there was a concerted effort to get people cycling we'd all benefit. The are some journeys that are better made by car, some that are better by bus, by train, by cycle, on foot etc. Too many journeys are made by car: I've known two people who drive to a paper shop about 80 to 100m away - that just seems totally crazy to me.

The trouble is that all governments are in thrall to the car lobby and can't have a sensible debate about transport. It's clear to just about everyone who's looked at the issue seriously that there have to be some curbs on car use, the trouble is that no-one agrees on how much and no-one agrees on how those curbs should operate (pedestrianisation, road pricing, congestion charges, parking tax, extra fuel charges etc). We're stuck in the current situation, which is the worst of all possible worlds.
 


Rangdo

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Apr 21, 2004
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bhaexpress said:
Butthey should be discouraged from riding on the pavement and should obey signals.

The only way to do that is to make it safer for them to ride on the road.
 




bhaexpress

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Jul 7, 2003
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Meade's_Ball said:
I'd suggest you watch out more for taxis and buses.

Yes but taxis and buses don't tend to drive on the pavement and by and large they do obey traffic signals.
 


Rangdo

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bhaexpress said:
by and large they do obey traffic signals.

Thats news to me :lolol:
 




looney

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Jul 7, 2003
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As I regularly point out, there are to many people living here. We dont have room for a car owning democracy like USA. We need to tax people of the road.
Its not a political issue its one of capacity, 60 million living on an island 800 miles long, we are f***ing full so catch the damn bus.:angry:
 




Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
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looney said:
As I regularly point out, there are to many people living here. We dont have room for a car owning democracy like USA. We need to tax people of the road.
Its not a political issue its one of capacity, 60 million living on an island 800 miles long, we are f***ing full so catch the damn bus.:angry:

Jeez! Find meself in full agreement with looney on this one

Er, :blush: , :clap:
 


alan partridge

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Jul 7, 2003
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looney said:
As I regularly point out, there are to many people living here. We dont have room for a car owning democracy like USA. We need to tax people of the road.
Its not a political issue its one of capacity, 60 million living on an island 800 miles long, we are f***ing full so catch the damn bus.:angry:

bloody hippy
 


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