Cowfold Seagull
Fan of the 17 bus
A lovely pair of Panacottas l agree.
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[Football] FC Barcelona statement on the Super League
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A lovely pair of Panacottas l agree.
GT49er
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I blame Google translate - nobody could actually spout that much shit and expect people to take it seriously, surely?
What a ridiculous and pathetic statement.
"It is sometimes better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
"It is sometimes better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
Cowfold Seagull
Fan of the 17 bus
Immensely disappointing.
Having been to the Nou Camp and been sold the story of the community club with its basketball and water polo teams, being on the "right" side in the Civil War and doing a huge amount for the local community they've shown that their financial model means that they will **** all of that off as soon as they're in trouble,
My first football weekender post Covid will be to Germany.Barca.
Well as in all of this, it isn't the club that should be blamed per ce, it's the current owners.
Farehamseagull
Solly March Fan Club
What an absolute pile of steaming shit that statement is.
Their motto is “More than a club” - what a joke!!! They are total charlatans, an arrogant disgrace.
Their motto is “More than a club” - what a joke!!! They are total charlatans, an arrogant disgrace.
Nitram
Well-known member
- Jul 16, 2013
- 2,178
Barcelona and Real Madrid are desperate clubs sinking in a sea of debt, financially mismanaged for years, they have rolled the dice and lost. Hope they both collapse.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/2b6aa26f-f2ac-426f-b218-612f4c21695c
https://www.cityam.com/barcelona-an...-issues-definitive-verdict-in-state-aid-case/
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/2b6aa26f-f2ac-426f-b218-612f4c21695c
https://www.cityam.com/barcelona-an...-issues-definitive-verdict-in-state-aid-case/
- Nov 11, 2009
- 11,366
Of course they are, but listening to Perez BS interview, he said "football really needs it"..... er no they dont, you really need JP Morgans cash because you've living beyond your means for years.
It has nothing to do with whats best for football and it is only about the money......
Who honestly believes either Barca or Madrid really would prefer the ESL if the CL offered them more reddies?
Farehamseagull
Solly March Fan Club
Immensely disappointing.
Having been to the Nou Camp and been sold the story of the community club with its basketball and water polo teams, being on the "right" side in the Civil War and doing a huge amount for the local community they've shown that their financial model means that they will **** all of that off as soon as they're in trouble,
My first football weekender post Covid will be to Germany.
Yes I’m the same. I’ve always been a bit of a Barca fanboy. Sucked in by the Cruyff legend and legacy and the Guardiola side is the greatest I’ve ever seen play football, but I’ve gone right off them now.
As suspected, Real and Juve were THE driving force behind the whole thing, 3 years in the making.
Barca are seen as followers due to their debt.
Even now Perez has the biased media and Real supporters on his side, they love the bloke. They see Perez as “a freedom fighter against the corrupt cabal of Fifa, Uefa, La Liga, the RFEF and the VAR”.
A far cry from independently minded and traditional English club supporters.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/apr/22/florentino-perez-the-emperor-who-wanted-more-but-lost-for-once
Barca are seen as followers due to their debt.
Even now Perez has the biased media and Real supporters on his side, they love the bloke. They see Perez as “a freedom fighter against the corrupt cabal of Fifa, Uefa, La Liga, the RFEF and the VAR”.
A far cry from independently minded and traditional English club supporters.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/apr/22/florentino-perez-the-emperor-who-wanted-more-but-lost-for-once
Immensely disappointing.
Having been to the Nou Camp and been sold the story of the community club with its basketball and water polo teams, being on the "right" side in the Civil War and doing a huge amount for the local community they've shown that their financial model means that they will **** all of that off as soon as they're in trouble,
My first football weekender post Covid will be to Germany.
Disappointing indeed but in their case its not really greed, its a question of survival. They are desperate.
This is the second time Laporta gets the job to clear the largest debt in football. Last time it took, I think, six years, this time it could take double that. Incredibly difficult situation and I find it hard to blame Laporta for doing absolutely anything to clean up the chaos Rossell & Bartomeu created.
Barca and RM can survive though, they just have to cut back and drastically change their spend culture.
Something a lot of clubs should start thinking about. Can’t afford to keep Messi or any other first team stars? Too bad. Play the youth, Live within your means, like everyone else’s business has to.
This.
Hampster Gull
New member
- Dec 22, 2010
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Nah, cop out. They have many options to cut their cloth accordingly, I have lots of experience of this in ftse companies, and yes, often it takes years. They chose their quick route, and now are rightly shamed. You and others may be understanding, fine. More than a club, nope
Hampster Gull
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- Dec 22, 2010
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It was always going to be the case that the clubs started pointing at the others, trying to be better than the rest, just followers, not the initiators. So what. They chose to rewrite the essence of football competition for their own good, whether they were the first or twelfth. **** all of them
On Monday the top UEFA official revealed Perez, Agnelli and Woodward as the back stabbing snakes in the grass.
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
- 35,322
anything including not spending so much?
Laporta was elected in January, its hardly his fault the club overspended and borrowed a lot of money during the 11 years he was gone? When he left the club in 2010, they were debt free.
blue-shifted
Banned
But I don't think either will survive. Both will be gone in their present form within the next year or two, (though maybe they can use the Palace handbook to reform in some capacity, no idea how that works in Spain)
Three reasons I think that.
Firstly, their liabilities can't be immediately minimised in the manner you suggest, football contracts run over the longer term.
Secondly, I think the price of servicing their enormous debt will increase as economies suffer in the immediate post covid years and lenders increasingly doubt debtors ability to pay and raise rates to cover the risk
Thirdly ... and most importantly ... the first step to solving a problem is admitting it exists. They are blaming everyone else, denying the problem, but still signing big players, like Alaba and giving out big contracts when they should be tightening their belt.
The only saving grace for those two clubs is that I have no doubt the Spanish government will bail them out if needed. Then they will go of splurging the cash again
Hampster Gull
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- Dec 22, 2010
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They are all back stabbing snakes. Barber and Parish have said as much. Did some have longer knives, or start stabbing earlier, maybe, but so what