Falkland Islands lie in Argentinian waters, UN commission rules

[Eeyore]

"Any Argies out there Eric ?"

"No Jock, just sardines following a trawler..."

 

[Eeyore]

Almost half the population are recent immigrants, since the Falklands war, and not necessarily from the UK.

As I remember it, the Falklands leadership came to Britain before the conflict to ask for British status, and Thatcher told them to do one.

The British government wasn't overly bothered by the Falklands. They were quite happily trying to hand them over until the Islanders started creating. It was Thatcher's indifference that led to the invasion. That should always be remembered.

 

[The Birdman]

Does this mean we can hand Burwash back to Kent

 

[Eeyore]

Is that just a lead up to the Southampton joke, or are you being serious?

Southampton has seen an influx of former islanders over the years. It's know as Stanley North.

 

[Eeyore]

Does this mean we can hand Burwash back to Kent

That is non-negotiable. Get the pitchforks ready !

Is there oil ?

Oh, fracking...

 

[daveinprague]

The British government wasn't overly bothered by the Falklands. They were quite happily trying to hand them over until the Islanders started creating. It was Thatcher's indifference that led to the invasion. That should always be remembered.

The removal of the ice patrol ship HMS Endurance gave the Argentinians the heads up. Im fairly sure the British government was not trying to hand over any oil deposits, as the wealth of it has been known for some time. Think it was more arrogance, and ineptitude by the government of the time, plus Thatcher and Galtieri needed a war to bolster their polical power.
I think I read that the previous time the Argentinians threatened invasion, we sent a nuclear submarine to the waters around the Falklands, and told them to fill their boots, and try.

 

[Triggaaar]

Southampton has seen an influx of former islanders over the years. It's know as Stanley North.

But what's that got to do with the ancestry of the settlers in the Falklands?

 

[beorhthelm]

I don't think Argentina own the waters but the sea-bed
In any case the 12 n.miles territorial waters overrides this.

they will use this to claim sovereignty over Falklands, over looking that as a seperate territory they have their own waters and seabed claims. it doesn't resolve anything, just makes the matter more complicated. at end of day UN has to resolve territory claims with the principle of upholding a peoples' right to self determination.

 

[turienzo's lovechild]

Argentina- IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THE FALKLAND ISLANDS LIE IN ARGENTINIAN WATERS

 

[Buzzer]

What I don't get in all this is the apparent Argentinian hypocrisy when they talk about Britain acting like a 19th Century colonial power. The Argies are demanding a bit of land 300 miles away from their shore and whose inhabitants do not wish to be Argentinian. Why must they have it? Their demands and their rejection of self-determination have all the hallmarks of empire building and unwanted colonisation.

I'd also add that if they are that dead against "European Imperialism" then their claim to it based on being bequeathed by the Spanish when Argentina was founded is null and void because Spain had no more right to it in the 19th Century than the British have now according to the Argies.

This commission ruling is a load of old tosh anyway. There's no legal basis to their ruling and it won't ever become law either.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

What I don't get in all this is the apparent Argentinian hypocrisy when they talk about Britain acting like a 19th Century colonial power. The Argies are demanding a bit of land 300 miles away from their shore and whose inhabitants do not wish to be Argentinian. Why must they have it? Their demands and their rejection of self-determination have all the hallmarks of empire building and unwanted colonisation.

I'd also add that if they are that dead against "European Imperialism" then their claim to it based on being bequeathed by the Spanish when Argentina was founded is null and void because Spain had no more right to it in the 19th Century than the British have now according to the Argies.

This commission ruling is a load of old tosh anyway. There's no legal basis to their ruling and it won't ever become law either.

Exactly. Well said.



The Falkland Islanders are not worried about it.
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[Pavilionaire]

I don't think Argentina own the waters but the sea-bed
In any case the 12 n.miles territorial waters overrides this.

I've heard the Argentinians are very keen to protect the sea bed. So much so that they've deployed the warship General Belgrano.

 

[Biscuit]

If they want it, they can come and get it.

We'll blow them out of the water. Again.

 

[Buzzer]

I've heard the Argentinians are very keen to protect the sea bed. So much so that they've deployed the warship General Belgrano.

Here's a bit of trivia to amaze your friends with down the pub. The General Belgrano survived the Pearl Harbour attack.

 

[pastafarian]

i have a horrible amount of Argie relatives
Going by what they say the majority of Argies couldnt give a flying arse about the Falklands and would rather their leaders concentrated on important matters such as sorting out the crippling debt.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

All I'd say is the world map of territorial countries looked very different a hundred years ago than it looks today. It'll look equally different a hundred years from now.

 

[Triggaaar]

i have a horrible amount of Argie relatives
Going by what they say the majority of Argies couldnt give a flying arse about the Falklands and would rather their leaders concentrated on important matters such as sorting out the crippling debt.

That sounds reassuring. Or maybe your relatives only mix with intelligent Argies, who don't represent the majority?

 

[Triggaaar]

All I'd say is the world map of territorial countries looked very different a hundred years ago than it looks today.

Got a couple of images for us to compare?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

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[5mins-from-amex]

The Falklands existed before Argentina so really Argentina lies within the Falklands territorial waters.