Les Biehn said:
Dwayne's sister.
examples of people that wouldnt be as famous(idolised) now if they were alive
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Dwayne's sister.
Simon Morgan
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We never heard anything of George Best in his later years until he died.
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LE2 said:
You believe in Cliff Richard?
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Marc Bolan.
However, looking at the original thread post, I have to wonder about a couple of things; Loads of artists and famous people are dead, and according to their celebrated lives are often given suitable accolade in death......so why NOT John Lennon?
It's true that he was not, sometimes, as peaceful in practise as he preached (often ascerbic and quick with a sharp tongue) but still a brilliant artist and integral to The Beatles. If not, then The Beatles would have been 'Wings', and we wouldn't want THAT!
I agree though, that some are overblown and cemented their minor works in history ONLY by dying. Some, I believe, would have done their causes no justice had they lived on, and by death they enabled their living legacies to be amplified (like forinstance, had JFK cheated on his missus, or said something racist!)
However, looking at the original thread post, I have to wonder about a couple of things; Loads of artists and famous people are dead, and according to their celebrated lives are often given suitable accolade in death......so why NOT John Lennon?
It's true that he was not, sometimes, as peaceful in practise as he preached (often ascerbic and quick with a sharp tongue) but still a brilliant artist and integral to The Beatles. If not, then The Beatles would have been 'Wings', and we wouldn't want THAT!
I agree though, that some are overblown and cemented their minor works in history ONLY by dying. Some, I believe, would have done their causes no justice had they lived on, and by death they enabled their living legacies to be amplified (like forinstance, had JFK cheated on his missus, or said something racist!)
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Yorkie said:
If JFK still lived he would have been appeached, lost the presidency and his reputation in tatters thru his affairs and links to the mafiosi!
FACT!
Dave the OAP
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Re: Re: examples of people that wouldnt be as famous(idolised) now if they were alive
Do we?
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FamilyGuy said:Martin Luther King - possibly the best human being that ever lived - we all we a lot to him and his supporters
Do we?
Emperor Hialie sallasie
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RoyalAli said:
Absolutely. Some of the guff that is written about him by people who never saw him play is truly astonishing.
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Gwylan said:What the hell is appeached? Is that where you have fruit stuck up your arse?
I think he meant 'impeached', where a president is forced out of office.
They tried it with Clinton for getting a blow job. However, the further you go back in history, the more they used to get away with. ...... unless it was a 'legal' war declared on other nations, which cost millions of lives - that's always considered fair play, and actually a credit to the warmonger.
Bevendean Hillbilly
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Saddam Hussein.
Much more of a potent figure dead than alive.
Much more of a potent figure dead than alive.
Tyrone Biggums
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ezmally said:
100% agree.
Without Limits
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Alexander The Great - i wud say that
Achillies
basicly nebody from a war who died young those 2 and all the kings which have been killed.
Jesus is a good one.
just we all wonder what might have been thats why
Achillies
basicly nebody from a war who died young those 2 and all the kings which have been killed.
Jesus is a good one.
just we all wonder what might have been thats why
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Tommy Cooper and Eric Morecambe
Common as Mook
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Rusco said:
That's rubbish I'm afraid. Both pant-wettingly funny and still would be if they were alive today.
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Common as Mook said:
In your opinion sir. In mine, they were completely unfunny (a la Ricky Gervais)
Rusco said:
But this is not about people's individual opinions - the question is about their generl reputation.
And CaM is right, both Morecambe and Cooper had peerless reputations at the time of the deaths - in fact, if anything, people have forgotten how funny they were.
Of course, you're entitled not to find them funny - although you must be one of the few people in the country not to do so - but that doesn't affect their reputation amongs the rest of us.
Common as Mook
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Gwylan said:
Very true and this was highlighted during last nights 100 greates stand up comedians. How Tommy Cooper can be at 53 on this list is a mystery to me. Perhaps he has been forgotten about.
Common as Mook said:
That's shocking. But this polls always feature recent performers/films/singers/footballers etc and comedy is more transient than most things. But the idea that people think that there 52 people funnier than Tommy Cooper is appalling. Still, I bet Max Miller didn't even make the list at all and he's probably the greatest stand-up there's ever been.
Who was number one - Peter kay no doubt?