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Yep, labour blocked this in 2009/2010. Tories will definitely push this through, could be worth up to 23 seats.To go back to the thread title, can we expect a Gerrymandering of Constituency boundaries ?
Yep, labour blocked this in 2009/2010. Tories will definitely push this through, could be worth up to 23 seats.To go back to the thread title, can we expect a Gerrymandering of Constituency boundaries ?
On the plus side, the Tories will be so despised after another five years of austerity measures that they'll get DESTROYED at the polls next time round.
On the plus side, the Tories will be so despised after another five years of austerity measures that they'll get DESTROYED at the polls next time round.
I wish I could agree, but if voters have endorses austerity this time, why would they NOT do so in five years time, particularly if the cuts are directed entirely at the poor (most of whom don't vote Tory anyway).
I can't see how a Labour government will ever get elected again - today's election result implies that many people in England seem quite happy with ever-increasing inequality, greed by the top 1%, zero-hours contracts, growing reliance on food banks, privatisation-by-stealth of public services, university fees, etc, all sprinkled with a good dose of anti-Scot/anti-EU nationalism.
Moreover, no Labour leader will ever escape the hostility and vitriol of the pro-Conservative newspapers and the threats (of economic disaster, of emigrating, relocation etc) issued by wealthy tycoons and big business, who now have a complete stranglehold over this country.
Welcome to a Thousand-Year Tory Reich!
Well, lets see. If i makes you fell better today of all days then great
I can't see how a Labour government will ever get elected again - today's election result implies that many people in England seem quite happy with ever-increasing inequality, greed by the top 1%, zero-hours contracts, growing reliance on food banks, privatisation-by-stealth of public services, university fees, etc, all sprinkled with a good dose of anti-Scot/anti-EU nationalism
Save the money and put into health care. In ten years, the NHS will be an insurance company. The bricks and mortar will all be owned, the staff will all be employed by, private companies, many of them closely held, so that you won't even get any widespread ancillary benefit to their stockholders...I truly fear for the future of this country, for those of you with money to invest, go large on an extended, privatised prison building programme.
Welcome to a Thousand-Year Tory Reich!
Well obviously it might have because they have won seats, such as Hove, incidentally.
On the plus side, the Tories will be so despised after another five years of austerity measures that they'll get DESTROYED at the polls next time round.
It does make me feel much better actually. Accurately predicted (and even made a tidy chunk of money with bet365.com) that 2015 would be a re-run of the last gasp poll turnaround of 1992 for exactly the same reason that the leader of the only credible opposition party was such a complete turn-off to most voters. Likewise, five years down the line from 2015, people will be so sick to the teeth of Tory increasingly-vicious austerity attacks on the poor and defenceless that they'll get their butts well and truly kicked into a decade of opposition.
Given the choice between a government that will attempt, however imperfectly, to make people's lives better, and one that will make someone else's life worse, but let you watch -- especially someone who doesn't live near you, look like you, or pray like you -- Britain has chosen the latter.
We do that all the time -- look at Congress -- but I expected better.
Save the money and put into health care. In ten years, the NHS will be an insurance company. The bricks and mortar will all be owned, the staff will all be employed by, private companies, many of them closely held, so that you won't even get any widespread ancillary benefit to their stockholders...
If the Tories are anything like their past they will tear themselves apart on Europe and it will all end in a huge mess with nothing getting through parliament.
It does make me feel much better actually. Accurately predicted (and even made a tidy chunk of money with bet365.com) that 2015 would be a re-run of the last gasp poll turnaround of 1992 for exactly the same reason that the leader of the only credible opposition party was such a complete turn-off to most voters. Likewise, five years down the line from 2015, people will be so sick to the teeth of Tory increasingly-vicious austerity attacks on the poor and defenceless that they'll get their butts well and truly kicked into a decade of opposition.
Black and white thinking that the Tories are evil, whilst Labour are credible and wonderful. The result - mental misery for the next five years for the bitter and twisted. Happy days.
Sure, youre right, the last one only lasted 18 years
The NHS will be fine, but i suspect it willbe shaken up a bit to become a more cost effective service that the country can afford and one that can continue to supprt the country as it has done over the last 70+ years under both parties...
The OP's point is being missed -- the NHS is already going away, Cheshire-cat style.
Single-payer insurance, and all services provided by private vendors, is not a national health service.
In ten years, all you'll have left is the Nye Bevan statues, like the Cheshire cat's smile.
You'll never see the savings, unless you're big in the City.
Not with a majority this small it didn't.