Ex-Liverpool player Howard Gayle turns down MBE

[Bakero]

No politics shouldn't be whites only , but blacks can't keep claiming to be " just as British as you are" on one hand whilst on the other hand claiming some sort of different status and pursuing an agenda against the country they claim equal status/nationality of , as for omitting the word "claim" , do you know gayle's ancestry ?? Is he west Indian ? African ? I doubt you know so I also doubt you can "safely" omit the word claim.

White guy turns down an MBE = principled.

Black guy turns down an MBE = pursuing an agenda against the country thus jeopardising the right of any black person to identify as British.

As for your other point, I'm sure you know that West Indians have African ancestry so I have know idea what you're getting at.

 

[alfredmizen]

If you go back along the "chains" , one finds that all black West Indians are of African ancestry.

Yes I know , some with a little bit of Indian or Chinese thrown in, your point being ?

 

[alfredmizen]

You're lumping everyone into one group, which is shameful. You're saying that just because some black people have a problem with the history of Britain, no other black people can say they're as British as you.

Seriously, how can you be so stupid to think "but blacks can't keep claiming" as if the millions of them only have one voice.

How can you be so stupid to think I'm branding all blacks with that statement ? Just because I didn't put "some blacks" are you really that thick ?

 

[alfredmizen]

White guy turns down an MBE = principled.

Black guy turns down an MBE = pursuing an agenda against the country thus jeopardising the right of any black person to identify as British.

As for your other point, I'm sure you know that West Indians have African ancestry so I have know idea what you're getting at.

first of all I have NEVER said that people of whatever colour are "principled" or not for turning down an MBE and i defy you to show me where I have , as for your second point , you reveal a stunning ignorance in respect of blacks in Liverpool and the varied ancestry they possess, as I said you don't know whether his ancestry is West Indian or African , if it's African how do you KNOW his ancestors were enslaved ? ?

 

[Triggaaar]

How can you be so stupid to think I'm branding all blacks with that statement ?

That is what you did:

blacks can't keep claiming to be " just as British as you are" on one hand whilst on the other hand claiming some sort of different status and pursuing an agenda against the country they claim equal status/nationality of

Just because I didn't put "some blacks" are you really that thick ?

You're wrong, grouping them all together is exactly what you did. You're saying that they're claiming to be British on one hand, while claiming a different status on the other. Name them. Who has said that exactly?

 

[knocky1]

Yes I know , some with a little bit of Indian or Chinese thrown in, your point being ?

 

[alfredmizen]

That is what you did:


You're wrong, grouping them all together is exactly what you did. You're saying that they're claiming to be British on one hand, while claiming a different status on the other. Name them. Who has said that exactly?

***sigh*** I didn't tar them all as one homogenous group but you carry on claiming that if you want , and plenty of blacks have claimed it , google it, I can't be bothered , or are you too busy perfecting some weird dance to impress your kids ?

 

[alfredmizen]

This post goes absolutely 100% nowhere near to addressing what your point was .

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

they're having wolverhampton pride at hilton park services this saturday as most of them are still stuck there.

daisy chain
regards
DR

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

You'll find that every human on earth are of African ancestry.

WHO CARES
regards
DR

 

[knocky1]

This post goes absolutely 100% nowhere near to addressing what your point was .

He lives in Ditchling and wrote the bass line for 'Walk on the Wild Side'

 

[drew]

My ancestors were enslaved by Romans. I've got over it.

Non ego

 

[Triggaaar]

***sigh*** I didn't tar them all as one homogenous group but you carry on claiming that if you want , and plenty of blacks have claimed it , google it, I can't be bothered , or are you too busy perfecting some weird dance to impress your kids ?

You carry on being racist to impress yours.

 

[knocky1]

Non ego

Tu loqueris veritas? What about your alter ego?

 

[Bakero]

first of all I have NEVER said that people of whatever colour are "principled" or not for turning down an MBE and i defy you to show me where I have , as for your second point , you reveal a stunning ignorance in respect of blacks in Liverpool and the varied ancestry they possess, as I said you don't know whether his ancestry is West Indian or African , if it's African how do you KNOW his ancestors were enslaved ? ?

No you didn't say that anyone was principled for turning down an MBE but would you question a white bloke's Britishness if he turned one down? Your comments make it sound like you have a problem with uppity blacks. Did refusing an honour make Bowie or Lennon less British?

And no I don't know the specifics of Gayle's heritage but I think it's safe to say that he has African ancestry and that some Africans were exploited by the British Empire.