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[Music] Eurovision Song Contest - a question about how the public votes were allocated









peterward

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Nov 11, 2009
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I'm no great fan as I think it's overly camped up, which can be tedious, but here's a question:

As far as I can find, there were 58 votes allocated to each of the 39 competitors, which I make to be 2,262 votes to be allocated across the entries.

Now, to get 1 vote as a result would equate to something like 0.0004 of the total public votes. So to score 0 like we did (and some other, I can't remember who) would mean a crazily low score by the public. Even in elections the fringe candidates score "something" so how comes we got a zero?

Can anyone explain? Am I way out here?

Cheers
You Maths are right, but not how you frame the system. There were what? 26 finalists? Who could get awarded public votes
And each of those 26 countries publics voted for their top 11 of the 25 others, not including themselves........ awarding in order, to those top 11 in votes, either 12,10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1 points.

So UK wouldve probably got some votes but they were never in any other countries top 11 of 26 and thus 0 points.

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Iggle Piggle

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Sep 3, 2010
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You Maths are right, but not how you frame the system. There were what? 26 finalists? Who could get awarded public votes
And each of those 26 countries publics voted for their top 11 of the 25 others, not including themselves........ awarding in order, to those top 11 in votes, either 12,10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1 points.

So UK wouldve probably got some votes but they were never in any other countries top 11 of 26 and thus 0 points.

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I think it was 37 countries this year who got to vote as the losing semi finalists also get to participate in the public vote.

I think I read somewhere our highest public vote was 18th out of 25th. To be fair, it was a bit shit albeit not that shit.
 






fly high

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Aug 25, 2011
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I didn’t think ours was the greatest song but the vocal performances live on the night were miles better than many of the others, so to see it last or practically last on all their public voting seems a bit mad to me.

Also, the year we came second yes Sam Ryder’s song was good, but we also - at the time - were getting positive press internationally for being possibly the first country in Western Europe to loudly and positively back Ukraine. Now, we have a situation where we’re probably seen in Europe as still cosying up to Trump more than they’d like.

So I do wonder if it’s a little bit of a factor, if not the main one.
The public didn't rate it but the experts did so I think our three singers can take some comfort from that.
 


Mellotron

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Jul 2, 2008
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The public didn't rate it but the experts did so I think our three singers can take some comfort from that.
I find it hard to believe it's just that. I caught some other singers who were very badly out of tune at points. People in Europe have ears.
 




papachris

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Estonia (3rd) and Sweden's (4th) were both quite novelty songs this year but with a catchy chorus and unusual dance routines.
Too many of the other countries put forward either decent songs with terrible singers or good singers with terrible songs.
I guess the winner Austria did have great vocals (extremely high notes) even if the song in my opinion was just ok
 




beorhthelm

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Jul 21, 2003
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I think it was 37 countries this year who got to vote as the losing semi finalists also get to participate in the public vote.

I think I read somewhere our highest public vote was 18th out of 25th. To be fair, it was a bit shit albeit not that shit.
it was formulaic pop. might be a decent single for a manufactured girl group, but it's not very eurovision. they hear UK/US derived pop every day, eurovision is a bit of camp alternative prog-pop. mostly forgotten weeks later unless it's popular in the cheesy med clubs.
 




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