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[Football] European Super League Approval













crodonilson

He/Him
Jan 17, 2005
13,521
Lyme Regis
I'm all in favour of it as long as the clubs that join are barred from domestic competition.

This is where I am. I actually hope it happens and goes on a PPV channel for all of the 'big 6' and their many followers can enjoy the action, and the rest of us mere mortals can enjoy what would be a hugely competitive PL.
 




Kinky Gerbil

Im The Scatman
NSC Patron
Jul 16, 2003
57,886
hassocks
Why would it collapse the domestic league? I think it’d continue on fine without spurs

And overseas/TV deals won't pay billions for Brighton V Luton

Good luck to clubs with stadium/owner debt

How much of the TV deal is passed on down to lower leagues?

Like it or not, the English league System needs United/Liverpool/Arsenal in it as they have massive fan bases across the world that pay for the TV rights etc.

Banning them from domestic football is a ridiculous idea.
 


Was not Was

Loitering with intent
Jul 31, 2003
1,588
This is where I am. I actually hope it happens and goes on a PPV channel for all of the 'big 6' and their many followers can enjoy the action, and the rest of us mere mortals can enjoy what would be a hugely competitive PL.
I agree. But I worry that the joy would be short-lived. To stop a handful of "massive" clubs dominating, the Rump Premier League would only remain competitive long-term if the revenues were well shared between at least the remaining top 50 clubs, and you can't see the likes of PBOBE liking that, if Albion ever got bounced into this.
 






Feb 23, 2009
22,996
Brighton factually.....
At the end of the day a European super league is inevitable.
The Italian and Spanish giants need it to generate more money as they have exhausted the domestic markets.

When the super league does come to fruition then I think the positions in the league must not be guaranteed, there must be access for teams to develop and compete, we must ensure it is not a closed shop like the MLS or NFL.

As for teams that compete in this super league, they must relinquish their league positions in the domestic field with the possibility they can compete in domestic cups.

I guess the money generated could possible afford teams in the new league to run two teams or have much larger squads to compete in both fields.

It will happen, it now about how we make it work, not only for those that leave, but those left behind.
 




Milano

Well-known member
Aug 15, 2012
3,345
Sussex but not by the sea
72% of ALL fans?? What was the scope of the survey? If I stand at the end of my road and survey the cars that go past for 10 seconds and the 3 that go past in that 10 seconds all happen to be red, then my survey results would conclude that all cars driving on that road are red. Which of course would be nonsense but factually correct in my survey.
 




Gwylan

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
31,336
Uffern
At the end of the day a European super league is inevitable.
The Italian and Spanish giants need it to generate more money as they have exhausted the domestic markets.
But the English and Germans are against it - the EPL is by some distance the richest and most viewed league in the world. When EPL clubs are for it, then the Super League is inevitable but such was the backlash, I can't see that happening for a while
 


Commander

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Apr 28, 2004
12,887
London
At the end of the day a European super league is inevitable.
The Italian and Spanish giants need it to generate more money as they have exhausted the domestic markets.

When the super league does come to fruition then I think the positions in the league must not be guaranteed, there must be access for teams to develop and compete, we must ensure it is not a closed shop like the MLS or NFL.

As for teams that compete in this super league, they must relinquish their league positions in the domestic field with the possibility they can compete in domestic cups.

I guess the money generated could possible afford teams in the new league to run two teams or have much larger squads to compete in both fields.

It will happen, it now about how we make it work, not only for those that leave, but those left behind.
Pretty much spot on, I think. As @Kinky Gerbil says though, it could destroy the domestic league if it isn't done right. TV companies won't pay the money for the non-Big 6 clubs. Maybe them running two teams is the answer.
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
54,182
Surrey
I don't think it's inevitable at all. This has been said for about 3 decades now, and the minute it gets mooted, the weight of public opinions crushes it. And that's not just here, but most of Europe. Look at what happened when it was pushed a year or two ago.

Pretty much spot on, I think. As @Kinky Gerbil says though, it could destroy the domestic league if it isn't done right. TV companies won't pay the money for the non-Big 6 clubs. Maybe them running two teams is the answer.
I agree the big 6 moving to a super league would wreck things domestically, but I don't think running two teams would be any sort of answer.

My solution to this would be to expand the champions league into a league format and allow those clubs to opt out of the league cup. It's shit anyway.
 




Eeyore

Colonel Hee-Haw of Queen's Park
NSC Patron
Apr 5, 2014
23,526
72% of ALL fans?? What was the scope of the survey? If I stand at the end of my road and survey the cars that go past for 10 seconds and the 3 that go past in that 10 seconds all happen to be red, then my survey results would conclude that all cars driving on that road are red. Which of course would be nonsense but factually correct in my survey.
Or if you stand outside the 'Red Car Enthusiasts Convention'- which is a good metaphor for the survey that has been done.
 






Rinkmaster

Active member
Oct 1, 2020
309
Newhaven
If promotion from domestic leagues to the super league is possible and the big 6 play two teams it could end up with man city playing themselves in the super league.
 






Beanstalk

Well-known member
Apr 5, 2017
2,527
London
I'm all in favour of it as long as the clubs that join are barred from domestic competition.
They wouldn't join then - none of them want to be a small fish in a big pond. So ultimately, you're arguing for the collapse of the European Super League (like the first time round) rather than for it.
 


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