English Military Victories

[The Cardinal]

But he wore the English shirt.

Are you saying that points should be deducted for playing an ineligible player?

You'll be claiming next that WWI and WWII don't count because of the Americans who came on as late substitutions.

Always thought the Soviet 3rd official had something to do with it....

 

[vegster]

We didn't do to well in The Boer Wars either. They didn't like physical challenges and shot from distance. We were forced to round up their caterer's and tea ladies and hold them hostage to try to get a result.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

I thought that it was the ANZACs being led by British officers...who were unable to read a map properly...they landed in front of some cliffs, within easy range of Turkish machine guns, instead of a flat sandy beach...giving rise to the saying about never trusting an officer with a map!

now updated to "never trust an officer with satnav"

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

Is the current operation in Afghanistan being classed as a friendly ? 40 more years and it might be declared a draw.

 

[vegster]

Is the current operation in Afghanistan being classed as a friendly ? 40 more years and it might be declared a draw.

well, thats a pre-season attempt to merchandise some England shirts and flags...... there's one hell of a market for Union Flags out here in the Middle East.. they are always burning them in Iran for instance

 

[User removed 4]

No mention of the battles won and lost vs the Scots or Irish as well.

That's because apart fom bannockburn which was f*** knows how many years ago , there haven't been any of note , now do us all a favour and take your colonial chip on your shoulder and f*** off back to the really "popular". Game where all the players dress up like refugees from a gay pride float

 

[Lindfield by the Pond]

What about the Argies? No hand of God at Port Stanley eh.

 

[User removed 4]

I thought that it was the ANZACs being led by British officers...who were unable to read a map properly...they landed in front of some cliffs, within easy range of Turkish machine guns, instead of a flat sandy beach...giving rise to the saying about never trusting an officer with a map!

no that's a myth perpetuated by ignorant aussies desperate for something to use as an excuse to hate the english just as many british soldiers died as anzacs, the aussies try to disguise the fact that its their colonial inferiority complex that really makes them hate us.

 

[vegster]

What about the Argies? No hand of God at Port Stanley eh.

They all had their hands in the air by full time. They were hampered by a poor manager and the kitman cocked up by not packing long sleeve shirts.

 

[ATFC Seagull]

Aside for Ireland's independence being missing - why do Korea, Vietnam (and probably others) on that thing count as singular, whereas WW2 battles count individually?

 

[Gwylan]

That's because apart fom bannockburn which was f*** knows how many years ago , there haven't been any of note

Well, apart from Flodden, Dunbar, Killiecrankie, Prestonpans, Stirling and Culloden in Scotland and there was also Boyne in Ireland. I'd have thought that Flodden, Boyne and Culloden were particularly well known.

Of course, it's not strictly true to say that these are wars between England and Scotland or Ireland (apart from Flodden); Culloden for example had English and Scottish troops in both armies. However, you could say the same about a great many battles in that list - notions of nationality were very slippery, probably until the 19th century.

 

[User removed 4]

Well, apart from Flodden, Dunbar, Killiecrankie, Prestonpans, Stirling and Culloden in Scotland and there was also Boyne in Ireland. I'd have thought that Flodden, Boyne and Culloden were particularly well known.

Of course, it's not strictly true to say that these are wars between England and Scotland or Ireland (apart from Flodden); Culloden for example had English and Scottish troops in both armies. However, you could say the same about a great many battles in that list - notions of nationality were very slippery, probably until the 19th century.

there havent been any of note that we lost.

 

[Gwylan]

there havent been any of note that we lost.

Yeah, but that's not what you said.

Although, this notion of "we" is a dubious one. Who's the "we" for example in Dunbar where an English army under Cromwell defeated the Scottish supporters of King Charles II. In a constitional monarchy are the monarch's forces really the enemy?

That's what's wrong with the whole list -the questions of nationality are far too vague.

It would be like winning the CL under foreign ownership, with foreign players and under a foreign manager - is that an English team?

 

[User removed 4]

Yeah, but that's not what you said.

but thats what i meant , and you know it.

 

[Gwylan]

but thats what i meant , and you know it.

Huh? And how exactly was I meant to know that?

Are you saying that all your posts aren't to be taken at face value? Does this include this one?

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

Simon de Montfort (sounds French, but was English) beat King Henry III (sounds English, but was French). Hundreds on both sides died - mostly English, obviously.

That sounds like mostly French died.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

Until bushy got involved this was heading for NSC Gold. Top Thread. And top post from The Cardinal !

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

Not quite, the Normans were Vikings who had settled in northern France in the early 10th century.

See confusing isn't it ... I realised this just after I logged off.

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

now updated to "never trust an officer with satnav"

next most dangerous thing ... ' Sailor with a gun'

 

[User removed 4]

Until bushy got involved this was heading for NSC Gold. Top Thread. And top post from The Cardinal !

ah sorry, have i spoilt your cosy little club ?its nsc not the cambridge footlights , nsc gold , ah diddums.