[Football] England squad announcement - Lewis Dunk RECALLED!

[Bozza]

Although I know we were all hopeful of Lewis getting a chance tonight, I'm surprised so many seem to believe he was going to play.

As soon as I heard the stat on caps (Maguire: 58, all the other centre-backs combined: 8), and given's Southgate's history of sticking by those he trusts, I didn't think there was a doubt that Maguire would start.

So, for me at least, it was a question of who would play alongside him and I was anticipating one of the young guns, ie Guehi or Colwill.

 

[Mellotron]

 

[loz]

I guess there’s only me and @Sheebo left but I’m English and I support the national team. I don’t just suddenly start my interest when they get to the quarter finals of a big tournament and all my mates are suddenly off to the pub, faces painted. I want us to win qualifiers and friendlies too. I’ve got mates who follow England everywhere, a mate who lost an eye in Turkey following England.

I watched us under Hyypia, Case, Hinshlewood. Hopeless coaches selecting hopeless players. At no point did I post “come on Barnet / Port Vale / Blackpool you can beat this shit”.

I’m sure you’ll get loads of trendy likes, but ultimately devoting yourself to a club cause beyond your own nationality and culture leads to where Newcastle fans were last night, decked in Saudi shirts and cheering on bloodthirsty princes.

It’s seems trendy to dislike the most successful England manager in my lifetime…not really sure why ?

 

[Guinness Boy]

Although I know we were all hopeful of Lewis getting a chance tonight, I'm surprised so many seem to believe he was going to play.

As soon as I heard the stat on caps (Maguire: 58, all the other centre-backs combined: 8), and given's Southgate's history of sticking by those he trusts, I didn't think there was a doubt that Maguire would start.

So, for me at least, it was a question of who would play alongside him and I was anticipating one of the young guns, ie Guehi or Colwill.

Yep. And Dunk may well start against Scotland which will give all those tossing toys out of prams Dunk v Gilmour.

Southgate’s mistake was saying he’d pick players on form. Firstly, that may be apocryphal, secondly Dunk and Colwill ARE in the squad on form. But in an important game he will be starting players who know the system. That’s how Philips and Maguire keep getting picked.

Ansu Fati is a genuine Ballon D’or contender in the future but he won’t start for us until he learns our system and is fit enough to play it.

I know there’s a Palace conspiracy theory going on here but it doesn’t stand up to scrutiny.

 

[Mellotron]

Although I know we were all hopeful of Lewis getting a chance tonight, I'm surprised so many seem to believe he was going to play.

As soon as I heard the stat on caps (Maguire: 58, all the other centre-backs combined: 8), and given's Southgate's history of sticking by those he trusts, I didn't think there was a doubt that Maguire would start.

So, for me at least, it was a question of who would play alongside him and I was anticipating one of the young guns, ie Guehi or Colwill.

Agreed - I do however think there is a reasonable chance for the Scotland game. Would love to see a Dunk and Colwill combo for that.

 

[SeagullinExile]

It’s seems trendy to dislike the most successful England manager in my lifetime…not really sure why ?

Because he’s just been lucky and in reality is an average coach? He blew both the WC semi and the Euro final by employing the wrong tactics from winning positions.

A top coach would of won at least one of those titles, maybe even both.

 

[Seagull58]

It’s seems trendy to dislike the most successful England manager in my lifetime…not really sure why ?

On the big occasions he lacks hot blood and big, big balls. He is overcautious and tactically inept.

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

It’s seems trendy to dislike the most successful England manager in my lifetime…not really sure why ?

Because he lost the euro’s to one of the worse Italian teams in history. It’s not great experience sat in a meeting shortly after the game, with Italians, Germans and Spanards, who took great delight in taking the piss out of how the team with the best squad could be so poor. In all their eyes England should have walked it. We were similarly poor in the WC. That is down to Southgate, he’s a very poor coach. Who in their right mind has Maguire and Phillips in their squad. Stupidity of the highest order.

 

[Couldn't Be Hyypia]

Why to some on hear think he is some sort of palace fan ?

He was born in Watford played more games Aston Villa and Middlesbrough than he did for palace, then managed the later, I’ve never really seen much of a connection other than playing 150 odd games for palace, it’s not like he watches palace on his Saturdays off.

I don’t know any palace fans who hold him up as some sort of palace legend, a good player but that’s about it ?

This is a Brighton board.f*** off

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Because he’s just been lucky and in reality is an average coach? He blew both the WC semi and the Euro final by employing the wrong tactics from winning positions.

A top coach would of won at least one of those titles, maybe even both.

Let me stop you there.

In the lothario stakes, would you condemn George Best for blowing relationships with two Miss UKs and one Miss World?

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

This is a Brighton board.f*** off

That's very childish. Lose an argument and then deny the other person the right to an opinion.

 

[nicko31]

It’s seems trendy to dislike the most successful England manager in my lifetime…not really sure why ?

Agree, just think of the other managers in recent times; Graham Taylor, Glenn Hoddle, the Wally with a brolly, the Capelo disaster, the Iceland humiliation under Hodson…

Southgate isn’t a risk taker but you have to give it to him he’s got a lot out of the current crop and the best tournament performances since 1966.

That said FFS play our Dunky tonight he deserves it

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Because he lost the euro’s to one of the worse Italian teams in history. It’s not great experience sat in a meeting shortly after the game, with Italians, Germans and Spanards, who took great delight in taking the piss out of how the team with the best squad could be so poor. In all their eyes England should have walked it. We were similarly poor in the WC. That is down to Southgate, he’s a very poor coach. Who in their right mind has Maguire and Phillips in their squad. Stupidity of the highest order.

Brighton lost an FA cup semi final to one of the shittest ManUre teams in history.

And who in their right mind would have Undav in their team?

RDZ OUT!!!!!!

 

[Javeaseagull]

Although I know we were all hopeful of Lewis getting a chance tonight, I'm surprised so many seem to believe he was going to play.

As soon as I heard the stat on caps (Maguire: 58, all the other centre-backs combined: 8), and given's Southgate's history of sticking by those he trusts, I didn't think there was a doubt that Maguire would start.

So, for me at least, it was a question of who would play alongside him and I was anticipating one of the young guns, ie Guehi or Colwill.

You’re right but we are hardly in danger of not qualifying so Southgate could have played Dunk and Colwill bearing in mind they had a few months playing together recently. Maguire has had no football and nor has Phillips. Who misses out for Phillips? Bellingham, Rice and Madison doesn’t leave much room for him.

 

[willalbion]

It’s seems trendy to dislike the most successful England manager in my lifetime…not really sure why ?

Yeah, never got the Southgate hate. Seems a decent bloke as well. Edit* folks have short memories. England were awful in the period before he took over, apparently a very unhappy camp as well as an unlikeable team. I think he’s done good things since he’s been in charge.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Agree, just think of the other managers in recent times; Graham Taylor, Glenn Hoddle, the Wally with a brolly, the Capelo disaster, the Iceland humiliation under Hodson…

Southgate isn’t a risk taker but you have to give it to him he’s got a lot out of the current crop and the best tournament performances since 1966.

That said FFS play our Dunky tonight he deserves it

All the 'big club' rivalry, all gone now too. The players understand what it means to be in an England squad.

I have said it before, Southgate simply has a punchable face. I have risen to the urge to metaphorically, punch it, myself, on occasion. Being a bully can be quite more-ish.

 

[willalbion]

Dunk & Colwill together please Gareth.

 

[El Turi]

Confirmed. Guehi starts. Dunk on the bench. If Ukraine can put some attacks together, they should fancy their chances of getting a few goals like Hungary did against Guehi.

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

Agree, just think of the other managers in recent times; Graham Taylor, Glenn Hoddle, the Wally with a brolly, the Capelo disaster, the Iceland humiliation under Hodson…

Southgate isn’t a risk taker but you have to give it to him he’s got a lot out of the current crop and the best tournament performances since 1966.

That said FFS play our Dunky tonight he deserves it

I'd have to disagree, we have made the semis and final despite southgate rather than because of him. Team selection has been poor and down right strange at times. Telling players that you’ll pick on form and then doing the opposite is criminal. It basically tells the likes of Maguire that it doesn’t matter how he plays each week, he’ll still get the nod which is unacceptable. It’s also insulting to those that are better each week but don’t get a call up. Saying that poor performing players have ‘never let me down‘ basically says that your are happy with second best. There is no improvement, no moving on to the next level, can you honestly see Pep or RDZ taking that approach?

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

I'd have to disagree, we have made the semis and final despite southgate rather than because of him. Team selection has been poor and down right strange at times. Telling players that you’ll pick on form and then doing the opposite is criminal. It basically tells the likes of Maguire that it doesn’t matter how he plays each week, he’ll still get the nod which is unacceptable. It’s also insulting to those that are better each week but don’t get a call up. Saying that poor performing players have ‘never let me down‘ basically says that your are happy with second best. There is no improvement, no moving on to the next level, can you honestly see Pep or RDZ taking that approach?

I rest my f***ing case. Maguire