[Albion] Enciso is such a ray of sunshine.... not

[albionalex]

Enciso never given the run of games Minteh has had, i thought whenever he played Enciso was adding something different. Trying to create, yes he's desperate to score everytime he plays but i love that about him. I really hope he's back next season (alongside Facundo) but i worry we'll never see him play for us again.

Minteh doesn't have much competition in his position though, whereas Julio has Pedro and Rutter.

 

[GT49er]

Yes and just where are West Ham, Ipswich and Leicester in the League? Yes at the bottom. If Enciso was so much talent he wouldn't have ended up at Ipswich on loan where he has hardly transformed their season.

So, out of our £200M summer splurge, which of O'Riley, Wieffer, Gruda and Minteh are giving us an upgrade on Enciso and Facu (and WBG and Gross for that matter)?

 

[Dave the OAP]

So, out of our £200M summer splurge, which of O'Riley, Wieffer, Gruda and Minteh are giving us an upgrade on Enciso and Facu (and WBG and Gross for that matter)?

I made exactly that point yesterday.

I am not saying we wasted £200m but I havn’t seen an upgrade on what we had

 

[albionalex]

So, out of our £200M summer splurge, which of O'Riley, Wieffer, Gruda and Minteh are giving us an upgrade on Enciso and Facu (and WBG and Gross for that matter)?

Julio and Facu are mainly competing with Pedro and Rutter.

 

[oldboyroy]

Let’s be honest, even those players have been inconsistent at times, probably with the exception of Baleba.

Yep, can't argue with that

 

[oldboyroy]

I made exactly that point yesterday.

I am not saying we wasted £200m but I havn’t seen an upgrade on what we had

I'd include Barco in that to however he wasn't happy was he?

 

[GT49er]

I made exactly that point yesterday.

I am not saying we wasted £200m but I havn’t seen an upgrade on what we had

So what should we buy for £200M if it's not an upgrade?

 

[Stato]

So, out of our £200M summer splurge, which of O'Riley, Wieffer, Gruda and Minteh are giving us an upgrade on Enciso and Facu (and WBG and Gross for that matter)?

On stats Minteh is. He's got more goals and assists per game for us than FB and JE. Played 31, scored 6, assisted 5, compared with FB 50, 5, 2 and JE 57, 5 & 6. He's also contributed more defensively and is a natural right winger, which neither of the other two are. They'd be competing for a starting place with Rutter who has played 32, scored 8, assisted 4 for Brighton.

This is not a criticism of either. Considering their ages, they are both excelling. Facundo's stats are now better because he did well for Leicester under Cooper. He chose to go on loan because he wanted to start games. Until the manager change at Leicester that was looking like a good decision. Enciso made the same decision in January, because he wasn't getting minutes ahead of Welbeck, Rutter, Mitoma, Adingra and Pedro, not any of the players on your list. His record in recent matches after getting a decent run of games make this look like a good decision. Whether or not he wants to stay, he looks like coming back a better player than he looked in the first half of this season.

 

[GT49er]

On stats Minteh is. He's got more goals and assists per game for us than FB and JE. Played 31, scored 6, assisted 5, compared with FB 50, 5, 2 and JE 57, 5 & 6. He's also contributed more defensively and is a natural right winger, which neither of the other two are. They'd be competing for a starting place with Rutter who has played 32, scored 8, assisted 4 for Brighton.

This is not a criticism of either. Considering their ages, they are both excelling. Facundo's stats are now better because he did well for Leicester under Cooper. He chose to go on loan because he wanted to start games. Until the manager change at Leicester that was looking like a good decision. Enciso made the same decision in January, because he wasn't getting minutes ahead of Welbeck, Rutter, Mitoma, Adingra and Pedro, not any of the players on your list. His record in recent matches after getting a decent run of games make this look like a good decision. Whether or not he wants to stay, he looks like coming back a better player than he looked in the first half of this season.

I think there's the nub. Apart from Rutter, who seems to have come good, the only people standing in the way of Enciso and Buonanotte were players already here, not our trenche of expensive newbies.

 

[maresfield seagull]

In hindsight he didn’t make the best decision for his personal game time.

Nah don’t think it’s panned out quite as he’d of liked
McTominay on the other hand actually looks like a footballer now

 

[BluesRockDJ]

Julio and Facu are mainly competing with Pedro and Rutter.

They're not competing because they're both out on loan ? Taliking about the here and now

 

[Dave the OAP]

So what should we buy for £200M if it's not an upgrade?

Which is the $ 64,000 question

 

[Winker]

I think there's the nub. Apart from Rutter, who seems to have come good, the only people standing in the way of Enciso and Buonanotte were players already here, not our trenche of expensive newbies.

I think O'Riley is coming good and has more potential than Enciso, not sure how he compares to Buonanotte yet.

 

[jackalbion]

The fact Enciso has not kicked on is a failure of the management, club and player. It’s a shame a player with such potential has been reduced to being loaned out to relegation fodder, and it’s poor all round. I think the club/fabian should have managed this situation so much better, but the player also did himself no favours.

 

[jackalbion]

I’d rather have had Buonanotte and Enciso as options yesterday instead of Gruda. He should have been loaned out.

 

[Cheggers]

I think O'Riley is coming good and has more potential than Enciso, not sure how he compares to Buonanotte yet.

Agree. He played a couple of good balls through yesterday, one in particular was lovely, but Minteh(?) ballsed up the chance to score.

 

[pigmanovich]

I think there's the nub. Apart from Rutter, who seems to have come good, the only people standing in the way of Enciso and Buonanotte were players already here, not our trenche of expensive newbies.

Either way Enciso and Facu weren't going to get the minutes they wanted were they

 

[Mo Gosfield]

So, out of our £200M summer splurge, which of O'Riley, Wieffer, Gruda and Minteh are giving us an upgrade on Enciso and Facu (and WBG and Gross for that matter)?

None...and throw Adingra and Ayari in there as well.

 

[A1X]

Enciso never given the run of games Minteh has had

Between 15/03/2023 and 19/08/2023, Enciso played 16 PL games in a row - 4 goals, 3 assists

Between 29/11/2024 and 15/03/2025, Minteh played 17 PL games in a row - 4 goals, 2 assists

Basically the same record

 

[GT49er]

None...and throw Adingra and Ayari in there as well.

Agree, Adingra has gone backwards since AFCON, but Ayari has surprised us all and earned his corn. Worth keeping - at least until we actually do get some upgrades. If he does go, he can go with his head held high.