[Politics] Donald Trump, US President

[nicko31]

How long till Trumpy puts on military uniform?

 

[Albion my Albion]

How long till Trumpy puts on military uniform?

One of these days they are going to figure out how to doctor up a pic so the image seems real.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

How long till Trumpy puts on military uniform?

He'll probably start at the parade for his birthday

 

[Peteinblack]

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One of these days they are going to figure out how to doctor up a pic so the image seems real.

The bigliest, braveliest, leader - but who dodged 'the draft', to avoid being sent to fight in Vietnam. What a surprise.

 

[nicko31]

He'll probably start at the parade for his birthday

I was thinking that could be a possibilty. But who would be at all surprised?

Where is a route out of this for America?

 

[Fignon's Ponytail]

How long till Trumpy puts on military uniform?

After sharing images of himself as the Pope, it really wouldn't surprise me if he does something like that for the parade.

Toddlers love a bit of fancy dress.

 

[Albion my Albion]

MSN

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If Trump Orders Soldiers To Shoot Americans, He Seems To Have A Willing ‘Yes Man' At The Pentagon​

WASHINGTON — As President Donald Trump ramps up his use of the military to quell domestic dissent, he has on his side a Pentagon chief apparently ready to carry out any order Trump gives him, possibly including a potentially illegal one to shoot American citizens.

Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, specifically asked during his January confirmation hearing whether he would have obeyed a 2020 Trump demand to shoot protesters — as Trump had wanted then-Secretary Mark Esper to do in his first term — would not answer and instead dodged the question.

The question and Hegseth’s answer may suddenly be relevant again following Trump’s orders to the military to protect officers of Immigration and Customs Enforcement carrying out raids to arrest migrants who are in the country illegally. Protests grew violent in Los Angeles over the weekend after Trump deployed 2,000 California National Guard troops to the city on Saturday night.

 

[Fignon's Ponytail]

I was speaking to my mate in San Diego this morning, who is anti Trump, and he reckons that all the damage being done by this administration will not get fixed in our lifetime. Less than 6 months in power - FCKD up a country for generations.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

It wouldn’t be the first time (National Guard not Marines though)

This popped up on my random play yesterday.
I raised an eyebrow.

 

[The Clamp]

This is malevolent narcissistic rage on a grand scale.

He’s been defeated in court. Failed and humiliated on an international stage over Gaza and Ukraine. He’s broken the economy and been called out very publicly on all of it.

This is a grotesque tantrum. No different in essence to Putin retaliating for Ukraine’s recent incursions into Russia.


Somebody shoot the ****.

 

[Fignon's Ponytail]

This is malevolent narcissistic rage on a grand scale.

He’s been defeated in court. Failed and humiliated on an international stage over Gaza and Ukraine. He’s broken the economy and been called out very publicly on all of it.

This is a grotesque tantrum. No different in essence to Putin retaliating for Ukraine’s recent incursions into Russia.


Somebody shoot the ****.

Every day I wake up hoping to hear the news that hes gone, by one means or another....

 

[nicko31]

I was speaking to my mate in San Diego this morning, who is anti Trump, and he reckons that all the damage being done by this administration will not get fixed in our lifetime. Less than 6 months in power - FCKD up a country for generations.

Here, Johnson engaged in prorogation of parliament, sent Mogg to lie to our former monarch and he still got elected, but ultimately the system held and he was rightly disposed of.

In the US the system has failed and has been unable to deal with such a dishonest actor. Once you elect a convicted felon all bets are off, Trump feels fully vindicated and will now burn down the house (maybe literally)

The damage is permanent, even if Trump is deposed of it along with MAGA will take a generation or two for allies to ever fully trust the US again. But right now Europe can't dump the US, we still need them, all we can do is manage the situation. So far, so good from Starmer I really don't know what else he can do.

Makes me feel sad, I was planning a trip to see relatives but I really can't bring myself to step foot in that country. They're coming here instead, they need a break from the chaos.

Democracy is the US has all but gone, but its now under threat pretty much everywhere in the free world. Losing it is easy, getting it back is a lot harder and usually involves bloodshed. No time to relax and be passive

 

[Gazwag]

I fear I am going to wake up in the morning to read about a US Marine shooting a US civilian live on CNN on the streets of a US city

Not this morning, instead I have just watched the footage of an Australian reporter doing a live report being shot by a policeman (with a "non-lethal" bullet) and hitting her on the leg, you can clearly see he targeted her.

 

[studio150]

This popped up on my random play yesterday.
I raised an eyebrow.

Ah, the Roger Moore look

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Here, Johnson engaged in prorogation of parliament, sent Mogg to lie to our former monarch and he still got elected, but ultimately the system held and he was rightly disposed of.

In the US the system has failed and has been unable to deal with such a dishonest actor. Once you elect a convicted felon all bets are off, Trump feels fully vindicated and will now burn down the house (maybe literally)

The damage is permanent, even if Trump is deposed of it along with MAGA will take a generation or two for allies to ever fully trust the US again. But right now Europe can't dump the US, we still need them, all we can do is manage the situation. So far, so good from Starmer I really don't know what else he can do.

Makes me feel sad, I was planning a trip to see relatives but I really can't bring myself to step foot in that country. They're coming here instead, they need a break from the chaos.

Democracy is the US has all but gone, but its now under threat pretty much everywhere in the free world. Losing it is easy, getting it back is a lot harder and usually involves bloodshed. No time to relax and be passive

That was a very odd moment. It was his own MPs who did for him. He still had the support of the membership (still does) and probably still has the backing of a large swathe of the electorate.

We have a lot for which to thank the tory MPs.

The one thing I find odd is why they stepped in. Johnson was bound to blag his way out of trouble, and he was a vote winner. Perhaps they knew more about him that has been revealed. It is not as if they had generally good judgement - they swiftly delivered us the mad lettuce.

But your point stands. One can't help wonder why the republicans have not moved against him. Does the President have powers that much more substantial than a UK PM? Or are Republicans that more craven, gutless and venal?

I agree that Starmer's 'situation management' is the best option. Grandstanding on the one hand, or groveling on the other, would be foolish. I would add that the same applies to huffing and puffing about Bibi. Going full 'anti-Israel' would simply be performative.

I suspect there have been bleak moments in recent (70 year) history, but we did not have twitter and truth social to air every so-called thought of the arsehat leaders, or the BBC's swift analysis to pick over every claim and action.
Can you imagine the scenes if Jeremy Bowen had been on the spot at Bunker Hill, or at Amritsar in 1919, etc.?

 

[rogersix]

they swiftly delivered us the mad lettuce.

Point of order, they deliberated for six weeks to select the ideal candidate to take our nation forward

 

[TimWatt]

That was a very odd moment. It was his own MPs who did for him. He still had the support of the membership (still does) and probably still has the backing of a large swathe of the electorate.

We have a lot for which to thank the tory MPs.

The one thing I find odd is why they stepped in....

I find it odd that the reason was reported fully at the time - but the cognitive dissonance meant it wasn't widely noted (as the corruption had been normalised). As had been done many times he refused to take action against one of his nefarious chums that was out of line (in the final straw example, of a sexually predatory nature). Unlike previous cases the victims were conservative party members. There may also have been underlying or additional 'whys', but this was a case that conservative MPs and members thought 'surely this is beyond the pale' but BJ had gone far beyond blind to the obvious.

 

[Bodian]

He's SAVED Los Angeles from being burnt to the ground. God Bless Trump.

 

[nicko31]

That was a very odd moment. It was his own MPs who did for him. He still had the support of the membership (still does) and probably still has the backing of a large swathe of the electorate.

We have a lot for which to thank the tory MPs.

The one thing I find odd is why they stepped in. Johnson was bound to blag his way out of trouble, and he was a vote winner. Perhaps they knew more about him that has been revealed. It is not as if they had generally good judgement - they swiftly delivered us the mad lettuce.

But your point stands. One can't help wonder why the republicans have not moved against him. Does the President have powers that much more substantial than a UK PM? Or are Republicans that more craven, gutless and venal?

I agree that Starmer's 'situation management' is the best option. Grandstanding on the one hand, or groveling on the other, would be foolish. I would add that the same applies to huffing and puffing about Bibi. Going full 'anti-Israel' would simply be performative.

I suspect there have been bleak moments in recent (70 year) history, but we did not have twitter and truth social to air every so-called thought of the arsehat leaders, or the BBC's swift analysis to pick over every claim and action.
Can you imagine the scenes if Jeremy Bowen had been on the spot at Bunker Hill, or at Amritsar in 1919, etc.?

The Tories stepped in because the public had turned on Johnson and they could use the 1922 committee.

There is no such mechanism in the US, we've seen impeachment doesn't work and the President now has immunity from everything. Chuck in the sycophants around him that only care for themselves and the supreme court and he really hard to depose.

So far we have seen numerous violations of the US constitution and nothing. Still does amazes me how little the US public value their democratic freedoms. They're prepared to gamble everything for what?

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

The Tories stepped in because the public had turned on Johnson and they could use the 1922 committee.

There is no such mechanism in the US, we've seen impeachment doesn't work and the President now has immunity from everything. Chuck in the sycophants around him that only care for themselves and the supreme court and he really hard to depose.

So far we have seen numerous violations of the US constitution and nothing. Still does amazes me how little the US public value their democratic freedoms. They're prepared to gamble everything for what?

Making American Great Again.
Sobvious. Innit.