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Dobbie - Waste of space (and wages)?



Del Boy

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Oct 1, 2004
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Him and Hoskins must be completely fedup sitting on the bench watching CMS game after game, it's not like they are sitting on the bench waiting for their change because a better player is playing, just a more expensive one!
 




Normandy seagull

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Jul 16, 2003
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He doesn't appear to fit in with our style of play. Surprised Gus did not realise this before- either that or the scouting team fcuked up again
 




seagullsovergrimsby

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Aug 21, 2005
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I'm sorry we were watching different games.
I saw CMS left wing, right wing, linking up play, putting in crosses, because if he'd stayed where he should be he wouldn't have got any ball, and in the off chance he did, he'll have 2 centre halfs to get round.

Which opportunity should he have scored from tonight?
Fluffed a fairly easy chance in the box when he got his legs crossed over , about the 5th game in a row he has ballsed it up when it is easier to score.
 


Normandy seagull

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only thing you can say in his defense is he didn't have much time to affect the game. He clearly is a player that has to be in the groove before we see any goals coming from him.
 






seagullsovergrimsby

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I'd have the rampaging Viking in a heartbeat , him and FFs would be great . It's not his fault he hasn't got a partner .

His partner is Barry Fry's daughter , she is well fit. :thumbsup:
 


Stat Brother

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Fluffed a fairly easy chance in the box when he got his legs crossed over , about the 5th game in a row he has ballsed it up when it is easier to score.
Was that the one he had to create for himself by getting the ball deep down in the North West corner and having to move in so the angle was on. Taking him into at least 3 defenders, all the while there was no obvious lay up for anyone else?

That guilt edged chance?
 




somerset

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Hardly his fault when his manager employs tactics which means he's supposed to play up front against 4 defenders with little support.

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Exactly..... We looked much more dynamic when Hoskins played up with CMS .... Dobbie needs more than fifteen, and Lua Lua was only effective for the first half.
 


seagullsovergrimsby

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Was that the one he had to create for himself by getting the ball deep down in the North West corner and having to move in so the angle was on. Taking him into at least 3 defenders, all the while there was no obvious lay up for anyone else?

That guilt edged chance?

Peter Ward would have buried it in the net :thumbsup: Bobby Zamora would have buried it in the net :thumbsup:
 


Stat Brother

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Peter Ward would have buried it in the net :thumbsup: Bobby Zamora would have buried it in the net :thumbsup:
Bollox, unless they have found a way to pass one solid matter through another.

Nevertheless, it's all 'labrador' CMS' fault and all you can come up with is that example, that once again, he had to create himself.

Do you not think you're making yourself look a little silly?
 






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Bollox, unless they have found a way to pass one solid matter through another.

Nevertheless, it's all 'labrador' CMS' fault and all you can come up with is that example, that once again, he had to create himself.

Do you not think you're making yourself look a little silly?

What about when he fell over in the 18 yard box when Kaz had played him in to a fantastic goal scoring position with a perfectly weighted cut back?
 


seagullsovergrimsby

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Bollox, unless they have found a way to pass one solid matter through another.

Nevertheless, it's all 'labrador' CMS' fault and all you can come up with is that example, that once again, he had to create himself.

Do you not think you're making yourself look a little silly?
Ward and Zamora were absolute class players , I expect CMS will be at The Amex on Tuesday when Gus has to explain the bids the club have received for him. £2.5 to £3M will offset the cost of bringing in a decent striker.
 




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Ward and Zamora were absolute class players , I expect CMS will be at The Amex on Tuesday when Gus has to explain the bids the club have received for him. £2.5 to £3M will offset the cost of bringing in a decent striker.
You don't have to highlight the facts we already know, that's why they are called legends.

Do you honestly feel, a 'decent' striker will make all the difference in a team that doesn't create any chances in the final third.

This time next year, Mr A.N.Other will be getting dogs abuse for being sh*te in front of goal.

Or we would have changed our playing style and he'll be scoring a hatful.
Which would beg the obvious question:-

Why didn't you just do that for CMS?
 


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You don't have to highlight the facts we already know, that's why they are called legends.

Do you honestly feel, a 'decent' striker will make all the difference in a team that doesn't create any chances in the final third.

This time next year, Mr A.N.Other will be getting dogs abuse for being sh*te in front of goal.

Or we would have changed our playing style and he'll be scoring a hatful.
Which would beg the obvious question:-

Why didn't you just do that for CMS?

What would you change in our tactics or formation to get CMS scoring? We play with two wide players and both full backs and wingers like the cross the ball. CMS, on the other hand, likes to play in a system with another striker. He plays the ball to the support striker, runs behind the defence and the support striker slips him in to score. CMS can't play back-to-goal football or attack crosses, which is what Brighton play. A big f*** up on Gus' behalf, a mini version of the mess that is Fernando Torres signing for a team that doesn't play to his strengths.
 


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What about when he fell over in the 18 yard box when Kaz had played him in to a fantastic goal scoring position with a perfectly weighted cut back?

Pretty sure that was actually Orlandi, and he fell over because the pull back was shit, and went behind him. Although it did fall nicely for Crofts, who should have scored.
 


Stat Brother

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What would you change in our tactics or formation to get CMS scoring? We play with two wide players and both full backs and wingers like the cross the ball. CMS, on the other hand, likes to play in a system with another striker. He plays the ball to the support striker, runs behind the defence and the support striker slips him in to score. CMS can't play back-to-goal football or attack crosses, which is what Brighton play. A big f*** up on Gus' behalf, a mini version of the mess that is Fernando Torres signing for a team that doesn't play to his strengths.
I'd have defending defenders, (as much as I love Calde, Bridge and Bruno), give Bridcutt the space to own the holding role, which then frees up 2 (perhaps one and a half) midfielders to attack through the middle. Providing the balls for CMS to chase, be available for pass backs and 1-2's, provide a presence from the wing play, and most importantly occupy a centre defender.

Basically Bolton at home.

CMS would make a laughing stock of half the lumps he's been up against this season, had it been one on one, but all the time it's 2 v 1 he's on a hiding to nothing.
 




Albion Dan

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Jul 8, 2003
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Do you honestly feel, a 'decent' striker will make all the difference in a team that doesn't create any chances in the final third.

That is tosh. Match after match this season we have created a ridiculous amount of easy chances and our forwards have missed loads of them. Hoskins should have had a hat trick by half time against Forest alone by half time as an example.
 


Stat Brother

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That is tosh. Match after match this season we have created a ridiculous amount of easy chances and our forwards have missed loads of them. Hoskins should have had a hat trick by half time against Forest alone by half time as an example.
Yep and CMS should have put Peterborough away on his own.

We'd hardly be where we are if created nothing, that's just hyperbole from me.

But by the same token Reading last season (the shining beacon of hope) had 6 players with 5+ goals and another 6 with 3 or 4.

That's just never going to happen the way we play, making us easier by the game, to play against, because everybody knows what to expect.
 


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