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[Football] Do All Those ‘BRIGHTON’ Fans on Here With a ‘Soft Spot’ for Arsenal Still Want Them to Win the Title?









Bold Seagull

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The agent has let it be known that personal terms have already been agreed, mentioning a five year contract offer from a club who have had their bid rejected. Not tapping up of course because they haven't spoken to Moises. However, he knows that the bid would be a transfer record and is keen to take advantage of the opportunity. Do you think that Arsenal, who have evidently been communicating with the agents, suggested that a deal was close and that they shouldn't do anything public that would jeopardise things and that the agent went rogue, or perhaps that they suggested that the bid had been laughed at and that the deal wouldn't happen if the agent didn't try to move things?

Its not conspiracy theory, its grubby business as usual.
So suddenly the word of this agent, he is saying anything to get his client transferred is the truth? I doubt it. You seem to be connecting a lot of things to make them facts. Arsenal might be for all I know, or they are respectfully conducting their business exactly as we are with Shaktar by submitting actual bids for a player we want to sign. Everything else is hearsay and conjecture. I'm not defending Arsenal BTW, but I don't see as we can go around like we're a shining knight when we're also having bids rejected for a player that we've effectively unsettled.
 








martin tyler

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Jan 25, 2013
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Tbh there are reasons to dislike all the so called big 6 or 7. It is what it is.

As with clubs before and players they have read TB and PB wrong. Airing your dirty laundry in public will make their resolve stronger. He has a price in the summer end of. If he wants to become Ecuador’s most decorated footballer he is most likely going to have to earn a PL medal by completing an entire season and earning it
 


JOLovegrove

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Jan 30, 2012
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I said to my very close Arsenal supporting mate if Caicedo leaves for them, I will want City to win the league. This one really feels like the straw to break the camel's back if he does go. Surely Bloom has to put his foot down at some point.

I know he is 21 and this a huge opportunity for him, but give it 6 months, and you can go where you want.
 


Publius Ovidius

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So suddenly the word of this agent, he is saying anything to get his client transferred is the truth? I doubt it. You seem to be connecting a lot of things to make them facts. Arsenal might be for all I know, or they are respectfully conducting their business exactly as we are with Shaktar by submitting actual bids for a player we want to sign. Everything else is hearsay and conjecture. I'm not defending Arsenal BTW, but I don't see as we can go around like we're a shining knight when we're also having bids rejected for a player that we've effectively unsettled.
Agents are the leeches of modern football! a scourge on our game. They can f*** right off

( there is a theme to my ranting here)
 




Grizz

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Jul 5, 2003
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I for one would be tuning into FamBludTV if they somehow lost the title to City.
I don't think they're around that much now, they got an absolute pasting from other Arsenal fans outside the ground one day, as they were seen to be making the club a laughing stock with their shenanigans. I think the rise of the Ashburton Army, similar to the black hoodied goon squad at Selhurst, has finally put paid to them.
 


Barnet Seagull

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Jul 14, 2003
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Falmer, soon...
Easier said than done but I'm very much enjoying finding great talent, giving it a chance and then making the big six pay big. I'd love to see a "rinsing the top 6" tracker.
 


Bold Seagull

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Agents are the leeches of modern football! a scourge on our game. They can f*** right off

( there is a theme to my ranting here)
They're just doing the job clubs and players pay them to do. The real culprits to my mind are the authorities running football too scared to put rules in place to counter all the underhand practices.

What is an agent supposed to do; client: 'get me a transfer to Arsenal', agent: 'it is against my moral code of conduct' - not going to happen is it.
 






Publius Ovidius

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They're just doing the job clubs and players pay them to do. The real culprits to my mind are the authorities running football too scared to put rules in place to counter all the underhand practices.

What is an agent supposed to do; client: 'get me a transfer to Arsenal', agent: 'it is against my moral code of conduct' - not going to happen is it.
No they care not one jot about the players, they care about their cut! Players have contracts which agents totally disregard. They are leeching bastards who are killing the game.
 


Stato

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Dec 21, 2011
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So suddenly the word of this agent, he is saying anything to get his client transferred is the truth? I doubt it. You seem to be connecting a lot of things to make them facts. Arsenal might be for all I know, or they are respectfully conducting their business exactly as we are with Shaktar by submitting actual bids for a player we want to sign. Everything else is hearsay and conjecture. I'm not defending Arsenal BTW, but I don't see as we can go around like we're a shining knight when we're also having bids rejected for a player that we've effectively unsettled.
Seems like you are repeatedly defending Arsenal. I'm not sure why. It's very straightforward. The agents are simply middle men, being used to protect the interests of the people who pay them. In this potential transaction, any money the agents get from Caicedo will be being paid by Arsenal, ergo, on this deal, the agent is in effect, working for Arsenal. In this instance, unless another club comes in, he'll be working to get MC to Arsenal done. He'd do nothing that Arsenal haven't either advised or approved. That's not hearsay, that's how business works. The moment that Matviyenko or his agent starts saying publicly that he wants to be sold to Brighton will be the moment that you'll be able to argue that Brighton are doing the same to Shaktar, because there is no way that any agent worth his salt would issue that message without the bidding club's agreement.
 




Sid and the Sharknados

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Seems like you are repeatedly defending Arsenal. I'm not sure why. It's very straightforward. The agents are simply middle men, being used to protect the interests of the people who pay them. In this potential transaction, any money the agents get from Caicedo will be being paid by Arsenal, ergo, on this deal, the agent is in effect, working for Arsenal. In this instance, unless another club comes in, he'll be working to get MC to Arsenal done. He'd do nothing that Arsenal haven't either advised or approved. That's not hearsay, that's how business works. The moment that Matviyenko or his agent starts saying publicly that he wants to be sold to Brighton will be the moment that you'll be able to argue that Brighton are doing the same to Shaktar, because there is no way that any agent worth his salt would issue that message without the bidding club's agreement.
It could be the case that Caicedo's or Matviyenko's agent, or both, is incompetent and doing a terrible job at achieving whatever they think is their role.
I don't claim to know much about the lad at Shakhtar, but Caicedo's definitely on his way this summer anyway. This nonsense achieves nothing for anybody.
 




Bold Seagull

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Mar 18, 2010
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Seems like you are repeatedly defending Arsenal. I'm not sure why. It's very straightforward. The agents are simply middle men, being used to protect the interests of the people who pay them. In this potential transaction, any money the agents get from Caicedo will be being paid by Arsenal, ergo, on this deal, the agent is in effect, working for Arsenal. In this instance, unless another club comes in, he'll be working to get MC to Arsenal done. He'd do nothing that Arsenal haven't either advised or approved. That's not hearsay, that's how business works. The moment that Matviyenko or his agent starts saying publicly that he wants to be sold to Brighton will be the moment that you'll be able to argue that Brighton are doing the same to Shaktar, because there is no way that any agent worth his salt would issue that message without the bidding club's agreement.
Caicedo's agent will be paid for by Caicedo as a cut from whatever they agree. Arsenal probably have their own agent working with Caicedo's agent and dealing with Brighton. It's rarely straightforward. Look at the Cucurella saga with ManCity making the bid, Cucurella stating he was desperate to join them and that went all south. I doubt ManCity wanted that to happen as it alerted everyone else that they weren't getting the deal done. As well as Arsenal wanting Caicedo, they'll also want to negotiate the lowest contract they can get him on too -and they'll be negotiating hard with his agent to achieve that not having him in their pocket.
 






Springal

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Feb 12, 2005
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Caicedo's agent will be paid for by Caicedo as a cut from whatever they agree. Arsenal probably have their own agent working with Caicedo's agent and dealing with Brighton. It's rarely straightforward. Look at the Cucurella saga with ManCity making the bid, Cucurella stating he was desperate to join them and that went all south. I doubt ManCity wanted that to happen as it alerted everyone else that they weren't getting the deal done. As well as Arsenal wanting Caicedo, they'll also want to negotiate the lowest contract they can get him on too -and they'll be negotiating hard with his agent to achieve that not having him in their pocket.
That’s how it should work - but it doesn’t. In most deals clubs also pay the agent fees, rather than it coming from the player.
 




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