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DTES

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
6,022
London
The blacks asians etc get treated here better than anyother country and don't you forget that.

Did you fall asleep in 1978 and have only just woken up ? you really havent got a clue about discrimination and official policy towards blacks and asians in this country, are ALLpoorest and most underfunded suburbs filled with blacks and asians ?

Go on then. Never mind just telling us "don't forget it" as if that's some kind of proof, why not come up with some kind of evidence for these statements?

The plural of anecdote is not data - providing one example in the Daily Mail is categorically not proof that ethnic minorities have an advantage. For every example of a black/asian person getting something they shouldn't, there will be an example of a white person getting the same. Of course, if you restrict your reading material to either the Daily Mail, Express or Star you won't see the other examples as it doesn't fit their editorial narrative (and if you've been watching the Leveson inquiry you'll have seen their journalists fully admit this).

Seriously, can you back up your statements other than with tabloid quotes? [MENTION=11956]bushy[/MENTION] you even say it's "official policy" - provide a link to this policy that gives "blacks and asians" any advantage?

And please don't play the "I've lived there" card - I lived in Peckham for 3 years and still do live in South Bermondsey now, and I have never witnessed any "shit being dished out to whites". I genuinely believe you are completely making that up, or maybe exaggerating on the basis of one or two isolated incidents you saw.

(And again on your closing point, this half-true misreported news story proves absolutely nothing other than that once one white girl got assaulted in unclear circumstances).
 








sydney

tinky ****in winky
Jul 11, 2003
18,162
town full of eejits
If it's that bad/obvious, it will be a simple, 30-second task to post a link to some real evidence (as opposed to one-off anecdotes), won't it? So where is it?

In the meantime: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/dec/06/why-is-britain-becoming-intolerant

you are apparently fortunate enough to live in an area where multi-culturalism is working well , i however am living in a city that is a maelstrom of cultural intolerance.......nothing major , just the kind of shit that was posted at the start , as for posting links etc. i wouldn't bother to be honest , i've got enough bother trying to keep my own kids safe without botherring about the rest of you .........you really come across as a raving lefty , which i'm sure you are not.

love and best wishes , me.
 


Chesney Christ

New member
Sep 3, 2003
4,301
Location, Location
oh for fucksake , anyone who cannot see that the boot is, now, well and truly on the other foot has got shit in their eyes.

Hahahahahahahahahaha!

So, you think to be born white puts you at a disadvantage in society then?

I'm not a fan of this expression, but SERIOUSLY..... You really don't know you're born mate.

Daily Mail buyer by any chance?
 


DTES

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
6,022
London
you are apparently fortunate enough to live in an area where multi-culturalism is working well , i however am living in a city that is a maelstrom of cultural intolerance.......nothing major , just the kind of shit that was posted at the start , as for posting links etc. i wouldn't bother to be honest , i've got enough bother trying to keep my own kids safe without botherring about the rest of you .........you really come across as a raving lefty , which i'm sure you are not.
love and best wishes , me.

Well I probably am lefty, but sadly my raving days are behind me.

Yes, I am living in an area where multi-culturalism is working well. Of course I don't deny that cultural intolerance exists - it obviously does in some areas of the country - but let's not pretend it's a one-way street! I do however absolutely deny that ethnic minorities get given special treatment by the judiciary (i.e. the suggestion that these girls didn't go to jail because of their race/religion) and as [MENTION=13947]happypig[/MENTION] says, to suggest otherwise does a great disservice to their intelligence and commitment.

So what did you really mean by "the boot is well and truly on the other foot"? That's an entirely different claim to saying that cultural intolerance exists!

And what does protecting your kids have to do with anything? I'm not asking you to protect my kids - just that if you're going to claim the UK has some great inbuilt racial bias that you have something to back it up!
 




Pbseagull

New member
Sep 28, 2011
916
Eastbourne
What I just do not get with the lack of a custodial sentence for those girls, is that in the video 2 of them are clearly seen kicking the girl when she is on the floor, my understanding is that regardless of any provocation or mitigating factors, if you kick someone when they are on the floor and defenceless this is a serious assualt with the intention of GBH. Can anybody tell me if either my understanding is wrong or if right, a reason why they were not sent to prison?
 








DTES

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
6,022
London
What I just do not get with the lack of a custodial sentence for those girls, is that in the video 2 of them are clearly seen kicking the girl when she is on the floor, my understanding is that regardless of any provocation or mitigating factors, if you kick someone when they are on the floor and defenceless this is a serious assualt with the intention of GBH. Can anybody tell me if either my understanding is wrong or if right, a reason why they were not sent to prison?

They were charged with ABH, not serious assault or GBH. The exact reasons why that was chosen would have been a decision made by the CPS - but then if you watch the CCTV of the attack it seems (as others have posted on this thread) that it's not quite as the Daily Mail article would have you believe.

Having said that, yes I do still believe they should have gone to jail.
 


Jul 24, 2003
2,289
Newbury, Berkshire.
They should have gone to jail.

If they don't abide by the conditions of their sentence, then that's exactly what a suspended sentence will result in.

6 months, suspended for 12 months.

So any breach of the curfew, or unpaid work order, in the next 12 months, will see them inside.

That's not ' going free ' in the sense of being let off without a stain on your character, it's being told to adhere to keep the law, behave, and serve your punishment, or you can expect a trip to HMP. For 6 months.
 


Billy the Fish

Technocrat
Oct 18, 2005
17,594
Haywards Heath

That article is utter toss. All of the incidents he spoke about wouldn't have made the news 20 years ago, even with today's 24 hour media and people filming everything on their camera phones. This country is more tolerant than ever, the only thing we are less tolerant of is intolerance.

The Guardian is the same as the Mail. If the Mail wants us to believe illegal immigrants are flooding the country to be given free houses and wide screen tellys, The Guardian want you to believe the country is full of right wingers out paki-bashing every night of the week.
 




Bigbelly

Banned
Sep 24, 2011
1,930
I'm converting to islam before our game at palace so I can get pissed and smash any palace I see and use Islam as my excuse. Lovely jubbley.
 


Goldstone Rapper

Rediffusion PlayerofYear
Jan 19, 2009
14,865
BN3 7DE
I'm converting to islam before our game at palace so I can get pissed and smash any palace I see and use Islam as my excuse. Lovely jubbley.

When's the last time you drank an alcoholic drink?
 


Ninja Elephant

Doctor Elephant
Feb 16, 2009
18,855
I know a lot of other people have said it, but seriously, what was the boyfriend doing?! Unbelievable. I couldn't believe what I was seeing watching that video, he just strolls around, presumably telling them off for being naughty. What the hell is that about?! There is no chance I would have allowed any girl with me to have been treated like that, I would have been the one taking the beating! The boyfriend is a prick.

As are the Muslim girls, but not for being Muslim.
 


sydney

tinky ****in winky
Jul 11, 2003
18,162
town full of eejits
Well I probably am lefty, but sadly my raving days are behind me.

Yes, I am living in an area where multi-culturalism is working well. Of course I don't deny that cultural intolerance exists - it obviously does in some areas of the country - but let's not pretend it's a one-way street! I do however absolutely deny that ethnic minorities get given special treatment by the judiciary (i.e. the suggestion that these girls didn't go to jail because of their race/religion) and as [MENTION=13947]happypig[/MENTION] says, to suggest otherwise does a great disservice to their intelligence and commitment.

So what did you really mean by "the boot is well and truly on the other foot"? That's an entirely different claim to saying that cultural intolerance exists!

And what does protecting your kids have to do with anything? I'm not asking you to protect my kids - just that if you're going to claim the UK has some great inbuilt racial bias that you have something to back it up!

the English spent most of the last century roaming the globe , raping and pillaging ( as did a lot of western countries) for their own financial gain , heavily involved in the slave trade and other noxious activities , the profits from these activities served to develop Britain into possibly the finest example of western culture ever seen , given that the major immigrant influx only really started just under a century ago , we have come a long way since then ....no..???
 




User removed 4

New member
May 9, 2008
13,331
Haywards Heath
This is all besides the case though, I'm still to see any evidence that she's being treated differently because she's white, which I thought was your "if it was the other way round" argument?
Perhaps the case of this little charmer will change your mind , whats different about this case ? The colour of the accused and the seriousness of the offence in my eyes.

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bn3gunner

New member
Feb 12, 2007
390
the English spent most of the last century roaming the globe , raping and pillaging ( as did a lot of western countries) for their own financial gain , heavily involved in the slave trade and other noxious activities , the profits from these activities served to develop Britain into possibly the finest example of western culture ever seen , given that the major immigrant influx only really started just under a century ago , we have come a long way since then ....no..???
Oh so its all our own fault and really we should expect it? Im fed up of this trend of accepting people taking the royal piss out of our country and getting away with it, why does a woman get banged up or remanded for using nasty words and these horrible c@*ts get off with a slap on the wrist for kicking someone in the head whilst they're defenceless on the floor, Its all wrong.
 


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