Ckr / Pfa

[The Large One]

To be honset the club should just get rid

Of McGhee? That will not solve this particular problem, especially if Wilkins was made the new manager.

If, as you say, CKR's problem is with the coaching staff as a whole, Wilkins' role as manager, being part of said team, will mean the problem not going away. In fact, there will be a continued status quo.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

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Bollocks it does, it points to an immature player unable to accept any authority. Utterly naive to think Wilkins as manager would solve that - he's the coach that CKR is refusing to listen to now! :thud:

Who says Wilkins agrees with what Mcghee says/does/selects?

 

[vulture]

Of McGhee? That will not solve this particular problem, especially if Wilkins was made the new manager.

If, as you say, CKR's problem is with the coaching staff as a whole, Wilkins' role as manager, being part of said team, will mean the problem not going away. In fact, there will be a continued status quo.

No i was talking about ckr to get rid off

 

[The Large One]

No - But a new man wouldnt really care about that to be honest - he would want to have his best players in the side and untill he did something to offend him he would playI would think

I would agree CKR would be given due consideration by a new manager, but you are asuming CKR's problem is with McGhee, and McGhee alone.

If it isn't, unless an entirely new management team were brought in, not much will change on this issue.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

I would agree CKR would be given due consideration by a new manager, but you are asuming CKR's problem is with McGhee, and McGhee alone.

If it isn't, unless an entirely new management team were brought in, not much will change on this issue.

Of course if it is the club he has an issue with then there is a problem, but from what he has said and I heard it seems to sugest Mcghee is the problem.

 

[The Large One]

No i was talking about ckr to get rid off

If he point blank refuses to change his mind, I would agree.

But somehow, I think there may well be a change of heart - especially after September 1. The only way Colin is going to be made an attractive proposition to other clubs is to put himself in the shop window for the January transfer window. And that therefore is down to him.

 

[vulture]

If he point blank refuses to change his mind, I would agree.

But somehow, I think there may well be a change of heart - especially after September 1. The only way Colin is going to be made an attractive proposition to other clubs is to put himself in the shop window for the January transfer window. And that therefore is down to him.

I am just worried about the effect it will have on the players and staff if he stays and the issues are not resolved

 

[The Large One]

Of course if it is the club he has an issue with then there is a problem, but from what he has said and I heard it seems to sugest Mcghee is the problem.

Insofar as he didn't like being sub and then subbed at Rotherham, that's CKR's problem. Whether you agree with McGhee's team selection that day, it's his privilege and perogative to pick CKR to start or as sub, or not at all. CKR, as a professional, must abide by that choice. Of course, he would be disappointed - who wouldn't? - but you have to learn to get on with it.

However, while I believe, albeit with no great authority, that McGhee is one of CKR's perceived problems, I don't think he is the only one, and not necessarily the biggest one. Whatever the real reasons are, I don't suppose we will ever really know.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Insofar as he didn't like being sub and then subbed at Rotherham, that's CKR's problem. Whether you agree with McGhee's team selection that day, it's his privilege and perogative to pick CKR to start or as sub, or not at all. CKR, as a professional, must abide by that choice. Of course, he would be disappointed - who wouldn't? - but you have to learn to get on with it.

However, while I believe, albeit with no great authority, that McGhee is one of CKR's perceived problems, I don't think he is the only one, and not necessarily the biggest one. Whatever the real reasons are, I don't suppose we will ever really know.

Which is a shame because I think people need to know the reasons.

there was a bit in the Argus last year when he said he was getting annoyed about being 4 choice behind 2 midfielders - which is fair as at the time he was top scorer and those two were very poor upfront.

 

[The Large One]

I am just worried about the effect it will have on the players and staff if he stays and the issues are not resolved

I agree.

However, CKR is a side issue to the day-to-day running of the club, and will be given due attention when necessary. It is use on here who are making a bigger thing of it than the club is. There are around 30 professionals who are prepared to play for the club, CKR is just one. While they are playing and training, the club's management team must concentrate on them.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

I agree.

However, CKR is a side issue to the day-to-day running of the club, and will be given due attention when necessary. It is use on here who are making a bigger thing of it than the club is. There are around 30 professionals who are prepared to play for the club, CKR is just one. While they are playing and training, the club's management team must concentrate on them.

He is - but his value decreases with every week that passes and he doesnt play.

I would hope he club would look at the situation soonish

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Trust the Albion to land a substantiate windfall to sign a player - and STILL end up with a headache. Why is nothing ever straighforward with this club?

 

[Icy Gull]

f*** sake I can't believe people think CKR has done enough for people to think it would be better to get rid of the manager so he can get back in the team with a new manager. Maybe he is the new Maradona but I haven't seen anywhere near enough to convince me he is worth more to this club than the current manager.

Horsesa and courses I guess

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

f*** sake I can't believe people think CKR has done enough for people to think it would be better to get rid of the manager

Not sure anyone has realy said that.

 

[Silent Bob]

Not sure anyone has realy said that.

Nope, just another possible plus in addition to the multitude of obvious reasons, such as that he is clearly incompetent.

 

[Uncle Buck]

How about we get rid of both?

In fairness to McGhee, I do think that the blame lies more with CKR, a hangover from issues of last season.

 

[bhaexpress]

I would say that whilst what goes on behind closed doors is the club's business CKR has brought the situation into the public domain by asking for a transfer it was the club that annouced it.

In view of the fact that we have had an 'indifferent' start I think that whilst we have the player who has, in a manner of speaking, cost more than the rest of the side not playing anywhere I do feel that we the supporters are owed some sort of explanation. As it is the fact that no clear picture has emerged I would say that speculation and supposition are rife and this is in addition to all the talk of new players which the vast majority are extremely sceptical about.

 

[BensGrandad]

The Seagull Line, granted it is an unofficial club line, says that CKR and his management team have issued a statement that he will not play for the club again until MM talks with him and his advisors about the problems. So from that we can only assume that it is MM who is refusing the olive branch.

 

[The Large One]

The Seagull Line, granted it is an unofficial club line, says that CKR and his management team have issued a statement that he will not play for the club again until MM talks with him and his advisors about the problems. So from that we can only assume that it is MM who is refusing the olive branch.

That is one of the daftest pieces of reasoning I have heard from you, and bearing in mind that comes in the face of some pretty stiff competition.

If this is a football problem, CKR's 'advisors' would do well to f*** off out of it - it's got nothing to do with them. Second, CKR created this situation off by flouncing and demanding a transfer, and now CKR wants an 'olive branch' or he'll never play again? Who does he think he is? Who the f*** do the 'advisors' think they are? Poor Colin will have a f*** of a wait if the Albion decide not to release him from his contract.

Of course, if you are prepared to believe this statement at a time when there's a battle of attrition going on, you go ahead. The rest of us will wait in the real world for some answers.

 

[Black Country Seagull]

I have a radical idea, the club is never going to sack MM, so lets keep CKR as long as possible, and therefore resulting in MM not falling out with any other players, as we all know deep down, as soon as CKR leaves, another player will become disruptive or lacking in team spirit