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are you 100% they dont /
anyway whether they do or not they players i would
i know i would and after reading the way you lot havea go at players
i think i would tell bha and there fans to get f***ed
well no not there fans just the ones here who act the prat

This has got to be a wind up?!
 






Cloughie

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Ranger is way to good for league 1:thumbsup:

Agreed. Although i'm certain that if he had a season with us we could certainly bring him down to our level...
 


Joe Pineapples

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As a Newcastle fan, I would imagine Ranger (if indeed he does go out on loan) will go to a Championship side. He's a very promising youngster with a great future ahead of him and Newcastle will be hanging onto him for dear life in a few years. Same with Haris Vuckic. Both of these players scored in the friendly against Carlisle yesterday, by the way.

Lua Lua is far more likely to go out on loan. I don't see Newcastle wanting to get rid permanently, but at the same time I don't forsee him fitting into the first team at the moment. There's no reason why he wouldn't end up down here again.

Players like Ranger, Vuckic and Carroll (though he played a big role in promotion last season, obviously) should be making the step up into the first team on a regular basis this season.
 


Foolg

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As a Newcastle fan, I would imagine Ranger (if indeed he does go out on loan) will go to a Championship side. He's a very promising youngster with a great future ahead of him and Newcastle will be hanging onto him for dear life in a few years. Same with Haris Vuckic. Both of these players scored in the friendly against Carlisle yesterday, by the way.

Lua Lua is far more likely to go out on loan. I don't see Newcastle wanting to get rid permanently, but at the same time I don't forsee him fitting into the first team at the moment. There's no reason why he wouldn't end up down here again.

Players like Ranger, Vuckic and Carroll (though he played a big role in promotion last season, obviously) should be making the step up into the first team on a regular basis this season.


How about Leon Best, did well in this division, but never really set the Championship alight. Cant see him getting a look in next season, possible loan deal?
 






Ninja Elephant

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How about Leon Best, did well in this division, but never really set the Championship alight. Cant see him getting a look in next season, possible loan deal?

I was at St James' Park the night Leon Best made his debut for Newcastle, in a 5-1 trouncing of Cardiff (friday night it was), and he looked massively out of place, even in a team that won by such a margin. He's never looked anything other than a journeyman striker who might chip in with 10 goals a season, but at a push. I've never been impressed and he won't last long at Newcastle, he's one of the reasons I'm concerned for their survival chances this season. Another is Steve Harper in goal, who is a liability at best. Newcastle should be looking to sign a #1 goalkeeper, or they're in trouble. Carroll isn't as good as people think either. Unfortunately, I think Newcastle will be in trouble this season, and Hughton won't see the season through.
 


Joe Pineapples

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How about Leon Best, did well in this division, but never really set the Championship alight. Cant see him getting a look in next season, possible loan deal?

I think Leon Best would do absolutely fine in League 1. He's certainly not Premiership quality (but then again, neither are Newcastle as a whole arguably) and I don't think he'll get much of a run in the team. That being said, Newcastle aren't exactly spoilt for choice up front, and will probably need all the bodies they can get.
 




Joe Pineapples

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I was at St James' Park the night Leon Best made his debut for Newcastle, in a 5-1 trouncing of Cardiff (friday night it was), and he looked massively out of place, even in a team that won by such a margin. He's never looked anything other than a journeyman striker who might chip in with 10 goals a season, but at a push. I've never been impressed and he won't last long at Newcastle, he's one of the reasons I'm concerned for their survival chances this season. Another is Steve Harper in goal, who is a liability at best. Newcastle should be looking to sign a #1 goalkeeper, or they're in trouble. Carroll isn't as good as people think either. Unfortunately, I think Newcastle will be in trouble this season, and Hughton won't see the season through.

If we stay up, I'll be incredibly happy. Unfortunately I just don't think the quality is there at the moment, and there's no real budget for signings (oh, apart from apparently £1.5m for Perch...)

Best is out of his depth, for sure. It was a strange signing. I guess people can smell desperation.

I'm not concerned about Harper. In fact, I'd rate some of his goalkeeping attributes above those of Shay Given during his time at the club. That being said, I'd like Tim Krul or even Forster to get a decent cup run. Very promising young keepers.
 


Foolg

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He's never looked anything other than a journeyman striker who might chip in with 10 goals a season, but at a push. I've never been impressed and he won't last long at Newcastle, he's one of the reasons I'm concerned for their survival chances this season. Another is Steve Harper in goal, who is a liability at best. Newcastle should be looking to sign a #1 goalkeeper, or they're in trouble. Carroll isn't as good as people think either. Unfortunately, I think Newcastle will be in trouble this season, and Hughton won't see the season through.

I think playing reguarly, he could easily get 15+ in this division, did very well at Yeovil and got 10 goals for Coventry last season in 26 games. Funny you dont rate Harper actually, i think he's a top class keeper who if anything was underrated.

I think Leon Best would do absolutely fine in League 1. He's certainly not Premiership quality (but then again, neither are Newcastle as a whole arguably) and I don't think he'll get much of a run in the team. That being said, Newcastle aren't exactly spoilt for choice up front, and will probably need all the bodies they can get.

Im sure you'll bring in another striker, cant see what you have being enough. As for a squad though, its not the worst i've ever seen, certainly IMO better than the Hull side that stayed up for a couple of years and many others. The likes of Nolan, Enrique, Guttierez and Harper would get into most bottom half sides. Surely Best would be decent competition down here, if we then let Holroyd leave on loan.
 


Ninja Elephant

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If we stay up, I'll be incredibly happy. Unfortunately I just don't think the quality is there at the moment, and there's no real budget for signings (oh, apart from apparently £1.5m for Perch...)

Best is out of his depth, for sure. It was a strange signing. I guess people can smell desperation.

I'm not concerned about Harper. In fact, I'd rate some of his goalkeeping attributes above those of Shay Given during his time at the club. That being said, I'd like Tim Krul or even Forster to get a decent cup run. Very promising young keepers.

I think staying up is the only aim for Newcastle this season, which is such a shame because the club is much better than that. Seeing Newcastle in the Championship last season was ridiculous, so massively out of place at that level. I couldn't quite believe the signing of Perch, what's the point? Seriously? Simpson has got right back covered.

To say it was a strange signing is very generous! What I found most bizarre about that signing, was the Best wanted the #9 shirt! Not a chance. I really don't quite know what Hughton was thinking buying him. Williamson looked a good signing, though. I only saw Newcastle the once last season, live atleast. But on that one night alone, Williamson looked a very assured centre back and someone who could make the step up. But Portsmouth didn't ever play him, and they weren't exactly flush for centre backs.

I'm not sure about Forster, having seen him against Brighton last season. And I've not seen Krul play so I wouldn't like to judge, but I was really hoping the rumours of Harper going to Celtic were true, because that was the only way he wouldn't start the season as first choice, in my opinion. He's a very limited goalkeeper and, controversial as though it may sound, I don't think they would have been relegated had Shay Given stayed until the end of the season. I would say Harper is a half decent back up but I wouldn't want to be relying on him as a number 1. I told my mate before the Cardiff game that there was absolutely no chance of him keeping a clean sheet, and so it proved. Even in the first half, when Newcastle were completely dominant, he was nearly caught out by a nothing cross which hit his crossbar!

I've got a lot of time for Newcastle and will certainly be seeing some games of theirs this season, but unfortunately I don't think the quality is there to stay up, and there doesn't seem to be much movement in the transfer market. Going back to an earlier post of yours, you mention Haris Vuckic. I have Vuckic 46 on the back of my current shirt! Random, I know.
 




Ninja Elephant

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I think playing reguarly, he could easily get 15+ in this division, did very well at Yeovil and got 10 goals for Coventry last season in 26 games. Funny you dont rate Harper actually, i think he's a top class keeper who if anything was underrated.

This division, sure. But I was talking about the Premier League, where he (hopefully!) won't get 15 starts, let alone goals.

I don't rate Harper at all, and seeing him live confirmed my opinions of him.
 


Joe Pineapples

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Im sure you'll bring in another striker, cant see what you have being enough. As for a squad though, its not the worst i've ever seen, certainly IMO better than the Hull side that stayed up for a couple of years and many others. The likes of Nolan, Enrique, Guttierez and Harper would get into most bottom half sides. Surely Best would be decent competition down here, if we then let Holroyd leave on loan.

Nolan is Championship quality at best these days. He's a lumbering galoot, despite his prolific goalscoring last season. Enrique is the best player in the side by a country mile, great full-back. I've got a strange sinking feeling that Liverpool might now try a bid, seeing as they're essentially left-backless following the sale of Insua.
 


HP Seagull

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Is there a link to where Hughton said this? I'm interested to read it.
 




Garry Nelson's Left Foot

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I wrote to Chris Hughton about 6 years ago and he advised me to stick with the girlfriend i had,...
When he appears on tv to talk calmly of performance i sometimes weep inconsolably wishing for his rebirth, for giving myself up and swallowing his sermons as whole.

After reading the flid-fest that's the palace boy ball in the face thread I was beginning to despair for the future of the human race. Then I read this and realised there's a glimmer of hope. MB it is your solemn duty to keep posting. Forever. Even if death barges in and nabs you, you must find a way to keep posting from the grave.
 


Joe Pineapples

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I think staying up is the only aim for Newcastle this season, which is such a shame because the club is much better than that. Seeing Newcastle in the Championship last season was ridiculous, so massively out of place at that level. I couldn't quite believe the signing of Perch, what's the point? Seriously? Simpson has got right back covered.

To say it was a strange signing is very generous! What I found most bizarre about that signing, was the Best wanted the #9 shirt! Not a chance. I really don't quite know what Hughton was thinking buying him. Williamson looked a good signing, though. I only saw Newcastle the once last season, live atleast. But on that one night alone, Williamson looked a very assured centre back and someone who could make the step up. But Portsmouth didn't ever play him, and they weren't exactly flush for centre backs.

I'm not sure about Forster, having seen him against Brighton last season. And I've not seen Krul play so I wouldn't like to judge, but I was really hoping the rumours of Harper going to Celtic were true, because that was the only way he wouldn't start the season as first choice, in my opinion. He's a very limited goalkeeper and, controversial as though it may sound, I don't think they would have been relegated had Shay Given stayed until the end of the season. I would say Harper is a half decent back up but I wouldn't want to be relying on him as a number 1. I told my mate before the Cardiff game that there was absolutely no chance of him keeping a clean sheet, and so it proved. Even in the first half, when Newcastle were completely dominant, he was nearly caught out by a nothing cross which hit his crossbar!

I've got a lot of time for Newcastle and will certainly be seeing some games of theirs this season, but unfortunately I don't think the quality is there to stay up, and there doesn't seem to be much movement in the transfer market. Going back to an earlier post of yours, you mention Haris Vuckic. I have Vuckic 46 on the back of my current shirt! Random, I know.

There was no chance of Best getting the #9. Sheer insanity! I agree about the Perch signing. I mean, if it had been a few hundred thousand, I could understand signing him as he's a half decent utility man for the defense. But if the rumoured price of £1,500,000 is true then I have to seriously ask questions of that decision.

Williamson was a great signing. Top cover for Taylor and Coloccini. The reason he didn't play at Pompey was apparently down to clauses in his contract triggering payments due to Watford (I believe). Pompey obviously couldn't afford that, so essentially they were lumbered with a great defender they couldn't use.

Forster was great for Norwich though, wasn't he? Admittedly I didn't see much of him during his time on loan there, but he won player of the season and kept a bonkers amount of clean sheets. The Norwich fans adore him.

I'll be getting Vuckic 46 on my home shirt this year too :thumbsup:
 


Foolg

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Apr 23, 2007
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This division, sure. But I was talking about the Premier League, where he (hopefully!) won't get 15 starts, let alone goals.
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don't rate Harper at all, and seeing him live confirmed my opinions of him.

Seems i misread your post, i thought you were talking about this division. If Best gets 15 starts next season, Newcastle will be in serious trouble next season, but it wont happen. I think he'd be well worth a bid on a long term loan (6 months with recall option say).
Changing the subject a bit, but Nottingham Forest have a number of strikers, another club we could possibly secure a striker from on loan?
 


Ninja Elephant

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Feb 16, 2009
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There was no chance of Best getting the #9. Sheer insanity! I agree about the Perch signing. I mean, if it had been a few hundred thousand, I could understand signing him as he's a half decent utility man for the defense. But if the rumoured price of £1,500,000 is true then I have to seriously ask questions of that decision.

Williamson was a great signing. Top cover for Taylor and Coloccini. The reason he didn't play at Pompey was apparently down to clauses in his contract triggering payments due to Watford (I believe). Pompey obviously couldn't afford that, so essentially they were lumbered with a great defender they couldn't use.

Forster was great for Norwich though, wasn't he? Admittedly I didn't see much of him during his time on loan there, but he won player of the season and kept a bonkers amount of clean sheets. The Norwich fans adore him.

I'll be getting Vuckic 46 on my home shirt this year too :thumbsup:

Sheer insanity is a very apt description! According to all the tabloids today, Sol Campbell is signing on a free aswell. Which is fine, he's a good centre back and an experienced professional who can only help. But how many centre backs do you really need when you've got to rely on Carroll and Best up front? He might not be costing a fee, Campbell, but he'll be costing a fair amount of money in wages, which would be money better spent on a striker! Even with the legendary Xisco back from his loan spell. Gosling signing on a free aswell apparently, another good signing but seriously, is Hughton paying no attention to the weaker areas of the squad? For Everton, Gosling played right back and right midfield, two positions his current squad isn't short on.

Ah that makes sense actually, that's fair enough.

He was superb for them and without question one of the best in the league last season. But that said, I wouldn't comfortable with him playing regularly in the Premier League yet, and the same could be said for Krul. Maybe that's me underestimating them, but I don't think the situation is right to blood them just yet. I'd rather loan Forster out to the Championship for a season and get Joe Hart in on loan for a year, like he was at Birmingham last season. Or have a cheeky bid for Given!

Lucky you, mine will forever be printed in Championship lettering. :down: For collectors value, of course!
 




Ninja Elephant

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Feb 16, 2009
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Seems i misread your post, i thought you were talking about this division. If Best gets 15 starts next season, Newcastle will be in serious trouble next season, but it wont happen. I think he'd be well worth a bid on a long term loan (6 months with recall option say).
Changing the subject a bit, but Nottingham Forest have a number of strikers, another club we could possibly secure a striker from on loan?

Having reread my post again, I can understand the confusion. I can't see any logical reason why Newcastle would loan him out though, and certainly not to a club in league 1. It would be a coup of a signing, but I'd still rather not have him here.

I'm not sure if they have a striker we'd really be interested though? I'm not sure how much McGoldrick played for them actually, he might be worth a look. But we'd not have much chance getting Blackstock or Tyson, and they would be the only 2 I would want from their list of strikers.
 




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