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Cambridge United fan fighting for his life after being attacked in Southend



Jan 30, 2008
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Having seen us play at Southend, I can never recall an occasion when we 'took over their ground'. I think that's a slight exaggeration old son. I know there have been incidents, but it's hardly been the Gordon Riots.
Were you there for the wheely bin incident game ?
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DR
 




Horses Arse

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The ignore facility was tailor made for the Nazi fairy - avoiding the shite spewed forth from his hate filled vaccum of a brain is a relief. No more exposure to the rantings of the inadequate, marvellous stuff.
 


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It's violence, not football violence.

Some places are genuinely hard like Portsmouth, Liverpool or Southwick/Fishersgate (Sussex) and other places have nutters: Bristol Rovers/Sunderland/Luton/Millwall/Spurs/West Ham/Wolves/Southend. You've gotta be street wise.

Nutters are nutters and they can kill yer. Go mob-handed and they will run away. Don't do that in Liverpool or Portsmouth though.

Southend is a bit like Portsmouth (very close hearsay). If you mess with them, be prepared for more than you bargain with.

Not sure how watching a football match followed by watching the rugby in a pub followed by walking to the train station is messing with anyone to be honest.
 




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Football violence seems to be on the up this year
This could be me desperately clutching at straws in an attempt to defend football's reputation, but had the people who attacked him actually been to the match? I.e. was this actually 'Southend fans' attacking 'Cambridge fans' or was it just an attack by bog-standard yobs on a couple of strangers who happened to be in town to watch a football match?
 




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This could be me desperately clutching at straws in an attempt to defend football's reputation, but had the people who attacked him actually been to the match? I.e. was this actually 'Southend fans' attacking 'Cambridge fans' or was it just an attack by bog-standard yobs on a couple of strangers who happened to be in town to watch a football match?
Not forgetting the alternative:-

A couple of Cambridge yobs bit off more than they could chew when attacking a couple of Southend fans on the way to the game.

Neither of which is palatable, but being in hospital doesn't instantly equal innocent victim.
 


surlyseagull

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It's violence, not football violence.

Some places are genuinely hard like Portsmouth, Liverpool or Southwick/Fishersgate (Sussex) and other places have nutters: Bristol Rovers/Sunderland/Luton/Millwall/Spurs/West Ham/Wolves/Southend. You've gotta be street wise.

Nutters are nutters and they can kill yer. Go mob-handed and they will run away. Don't do that in Liverpool or Portsmouth though.

Southend is a bit like Portsmouth (very close hearsay). If you mess with them, be prepared for more than you bargain with.

Its amazing how hard some can get when they are in a crowd and have their yobo mates with them.
 


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Its amazing how hard some can get when they are in a crowd and have their yobo mates with them.
Plus the line of police, horses, and dogs.
 




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Having seen us play at Southend, I can never recall an occasion when we 'took over their ground'. I think that's a slight exaggeration old son. I know there have been incidents, but it's hardly been the Gordon Riots.

They got 5,500 against Carlisle recently, we took 3,500 there for opening day a decade back...
 


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Not forgetting the alternative:-

A couple of Cambridge yobs bit off more than they could chew when attacking a couple of Southend fans on the way to the game.

Neither of which is palatable, but being in hospital doesn't instantly equal innocent victim.
That would still be 'football violence' though as opposed to just 'violence'. I'm trying to blame society here rather than football.
 


atfc village

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Cambridge took a firm down and took liberties all day,as always the stragglers at the end of the day who have nothing to do with it take the the flak sadly.
 




Pogue Mahone

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Cambridge took a firm down and took liberties all day,as always the stragglers at the end of the day who have nothing to do with it take the the flak sadly.

This is also what I have heard.

Pathetic really, a club like Cambridge has a firm (called The Main Firm) of 40-and 50-somethings who turn out intermittently, causing carnage. They even have their own website, which is one of the most cringeworthy things that I have read.

They have been around for years, in fact the first football supporters jailed for football violence were in this firm, after they attacked Chelsea supporters in the 80s, and nearly killed someone.

But Simon Dobbin is NOT connected to this firm. By all accounts he is a gentle, kind family man. Nobody has suggested that he was anything other than an innocent victim, in the wrong place at the wrong time.
 


Phat Baz 68

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**** Cambridge Utd supporters back in the early -mid 80's we played Cambridge Utd away,
we were walking down the street minding our own business when we noticed our mate Hugh was lagging behind looking in a shop window about 100yards behind us.
As we called to him three Cambridge Utd supporters attacked him with a baseball bat and a pair of metal medical crutches, left him hospitalised with serious injurys.
So **** em !!!
 


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Bloody terrible stuff. Sickening. Really rather hoped we could have moved passed this so that if you just want to go to a match and go home safe you can. That people still feel they have to kick off because someone is 'on their turf' is just ridiculous.
 




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But Simon Dobbin is NOT connected to this firm. By all accounts he is a gentle, kind family man. Nobody has suggested that he was anything other than an innocent victim, in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Sorry PM I should have been clearer.

My intention wasn't to suggest that Mr Dobbin was anything other than a case of wrong place wrong time.
I was very tactlessly pointing out how we all stereotype the people in such cases based entirely on the outcome.
 


the wanderbus

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**** Cambridge Utd supporters back in the early -mid 80's we played Cambridge Utd away,
we were walking down the street minding our own business when we noticed our mate Hugh was lagging behind looking in a shop window about 100yards behind us.
As we called to him three Cambridge Utd supporters attacked him with a baseball bat and a pair of metal medical crutches, left him hospitalised with serious injurys.
So **** em !!!

I remember it well, if slightly differently to you. As I recall 3 cambridge supporters came out of a pub, one of them on crutches, passed the main group of us then the one on crutches smacked Huw , who was lagging behind, with the crutches the dropped them and ran off down an alley. I don't remember a baseball bat and I don't recall anyone being kept in hospital for longer than a brief check up, infact I thought Huw and his mate arrived at the game around half time. And I can hardly believe we were minding our own business,we'd been on the lash and poppers since we left home , had been escorted out of Harlow(?) town centre earlier and behaving like a right bunch of minges all day
 


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I remember it well, if slightly differently to you. As I recall 3 cambridge supporters came out of a pub, one of them on crutches, passed the main group of us then the one on crutches smacked Huw , who was lagging behind, with the crutches the dropped them and ran off down an alley. I don't remember a baseball bat and I don't recall anyone being kept in hospital for longer than a brief check up, infact I thought Huw and his mate arrived at the game around half time. And I can hardly believe we were minding our own business,we'd been on the lash and poppers since we left home , had been escorted out of Harlow(?) town centre earlier and behaving like a right bunch of minges all day
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atfc village

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04/05 50 of Aldershot's lads travelled to Cambridge ,42 were put on the 1st train back to london.After that occasion every time we played Cambridge away it was a Tuesday or moved to a Friday ,even when Histon [5miles from Cambridge] made The Conference it was moved to a Friday because The OB couldn't police it as it was freshers week.Shame as Cambridge is a good day out.
 






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This is also what I have heard.

Pathetic really, a club like Cambridge has a firm (called The Main Firm) of 40-and 50-somethings who turn out intermittently, causing carnage. They even have their own website, which is one of the most cringeworthy things that I have read.

They have been around for years, in fact the first football supporters jailed for football violence were in this firm, after they attacked Chelsea supporters in the 80s, and nearly killed someone.

But Simon Dobbin is NOT connected to this firm. By all accounts he is a gentle, kind family man. Nobody has suggested that he was anything other than an innocent victim, in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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DR
 


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