nicko31
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Falling wages in Euro terms isn't good for attracting workers from Europe, not to mention the image that Brexit creates of the UK
Migration directly reflects economic growth - Well there's a surprise
Maybe it was Nigel's plan to have a long hard recession and stop it completely all along
The foreign secretary?
Migration directly reflects economic growth - Well there's a surprise
Maybe it was Nigel's plan to have a long hard recession and stop it completely all along
I don't understand your point. Of course it is. This is exactly what was said all along I.e. We will have to pay an enournous bill to leave. I don't think it was remainders who said we would not pay a penny was it? Or is this a new meaning to "go whistle"
The interesting bit will be the detail about transition. How long are we paying in to ensure we are not completely screwed by leaving.
and we would have continued paying an even more enormous bill to remain.
Not this AGAIN !!!! I know you like to quote out of context to support the remain argument but this one is getting a bit tedious now. Go and view the WHOLE Q&A session. He said the EU could go whistle in regards to the suggested figure of £100bn. Even if you believe the latest rumours ( and that is what they are ) of £50bn his response was about the much higher figure.
Complete rewriting of history there.
Here's the full exchange from Hansard
"Mr Philip Hollobone (Kettering) (Con)
Since we joined the Common Market on 1 January 1973 until the date we leave, we will have given the EU and its predecessors, in today’s money in real terms, a total of £209 billion. Will the Foreign Secretary make it clear to the EU that if it wants a penny piece more, it can go whistle?
Boris Johnson
I am sure that my hon. Friend’s words will have broken like a thunderclap over Brussels and they will pay attention to what he has said. He makes a very valid point; the sums that I have seen that they propose to demand from this country seem to me to be extortionate, and I think that to “go whistle” is an entirely appropriate expression."
In other words, Johnson was agreeing with Hollobone's assertion that the UK had paid enough since it had joined the EEC (as it was then) and they could "go whistle" for any more. Not £50bn, not £20bn
Could take a while to plug the economic deficit since leave won, running at £300m a week from poor growth. Gonna need some killer trade deals..
Complete rewriting of history there.
Here's the full exchange from Hansard
"Mr Philip Hollobone (Kettering) (Con)
Since we joined the Common Market on 1 January 1973 until the date we leave, we will have given the EU and its predecessors, in today’s money in real terms, a total of £209 billion. Will the Foreign Secretary make it clear to the EU that if it wants a penny piece more, it can go whistle?
Boris Johnson
I am sure that my hon. Friend’s words will have broken like a thunderclap over Brussels and they will pay attention to what he has said. He makes a very valid point; the sums that I have seen that they propose to demand from this country seem to me to be extortionate, and I think that to “go whistle” is an entirely appropriate expression."
In other words, Johnson was agreeing with Hollobone's assertion that the UK had paid enough since it had joined the EEC (as it was then) and they could "go whistle" for any more. Not £50bn, not £20bn
And your proof for those figures is where?
My money is on an article in the Grauniad
Those immigration figures can't be right. I'm sure quite a few of our resident Remaniacs told me/us Brexit wouldn't make any difference to net immigration.
I heard from a very good sauce that one hospital in central london lost over 400 European staff in the last 6 months...at least half of them were front line staff. They haven't been able to replace them and are using agency staff at three times the rate they had been paying...then it seems like the agencies are starting to struggle to fill their books too.
My money is on an article in the Grauniad