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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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brighton fella

New member
Mar 20, 2009
1,645
He really is hilarious isn't he. Thank goodness for all those US tourists keeping our magnificent economy riding high!

He's got such an agenda. He wants to be the next Trump.

Of course, he's a total liar. You don't get this balanced news from the BBC? Sorry Nige. 11 days ago the BBC were sharing this...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41121954

Oh dear? A balanced BBC. Why wouldn't Nigel share that with me? Because he is a LIAR and you can't trust one word that comes out of his mouth!

Why brand Farage a liar when he is stating a fact. Your link is the one and only time that i have ever come to hear the British Bullshit Company mention this. Who's the liar ??.

Wasn't it the BBC along with their masters who have always maintained that Brexit spells doom.

Folk like you care nothing for this country and will prioritize hopes of Brexit becoming a failure foremost . Get over it.
 


sir albion

New member
Jan 6, 2007
13,055
SWINDON
Take your rose coloured Brexit spec's off

Slowest performing economy in the EU and the G7 so far this year. Thankfully those pesky foreigners are visiting our shores and buying our goods in Europe, so its not quite disaster yet
Was the fastest growing economy in the EU not so many months ago.....what's new as these things happen :)
 


nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
18,400
Gods country fortnightly
Why brand Farage a liar when he is stating a fact. Your link is the one and only time that i have ever come to hear the British Bullshit Company mention this. Who's the liar ??.

Wasn't it the BBC along with their masters who have always maintained that Brexit spells doom.

Folk like you care nothing for this country and will prioritize hopes of Brexit becoming a failure foremost . Get over it.

He hates the balance of the Beeb which is world renowned, little surprise you will regularly see him on Fox News, the kinda of gutter press where he is at home
 


sir albion

New member
Jan 6, 2007
13,055
SWINDON
Influence? The only influence within the EU is from Germany. They get whatever they want.
It's a complete domination by Germany and France with the bellends in Brussels doing most of the talking.Its just an organisation that's got too much power and too much control and it's either their way or no way.

Vile twats
 




brighton fella

New member
Mar 20, 2009
1,645
He hates the balance of the Beeb which is world renowned, little surprise you will regularly see him on Fox News, the kinda of gutter press where he is at home

Good job we have an alternative media who will expose the bullshit of the BBC..no one else will. Just how many more lies will they continue with.

To get a greater insight look at who sponsors the BBC. enough said.
 


Herr Tubthumper

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
62,381
The Fatherland
This has been your line for a few weeks, with the EU running a surplus of some £60bn with the UK and Germany with £30bn alone I am trying to work out why you sneeringly expect that to be irrelevant.

I'm sorry I'm not quite following. Or are you suggesting the German cars, Prosecco, "easiest deal in the world", the EU need the U.K. more than the U.K. needs them was a load of bullshit?
 


JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
Take your rose coloured Brexit spec's off

Slowest performing economy in the EU and the G7 so far this year. Thankfully those pesky foreigners are visiting our shores and buying our goods in Europe, so its not quite disaster yet

Apologies if all the data doesn't fit your disaster narrative.

And for much of 2016 after the vote we were the fastest growing but then you didn't place any significance in that, did you. You are a gloom junky trawling about for negativity fixes to support your habit.

PS They are Red White and Blue spectacles :p
 




JC Footy Genius

Bringer of TRUTH
Jun 9, 2015
10,568
Lol. Just because politicians lied doesn't mean I did. People argued pound was over valued when it was at lower rates than usual vs dollar and euro. Go on holiday to Ibiza and come back and say the pound has not tanked.

Have you read nothing from legal experts who have explained what WTO terms actually means? You should.

Who said you did? Yes, the pound has fallen by a significant amount which according to those experts was likely to happen at some point.

How do you know we are leaving on WTO terms?
 


Wrong-Direction

Well-known member
Mar 10, 2013
13,587
Good to see things are going well over here

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pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
I don't need to read it again. You argued that the past referendum on this highly complex issue should have happened but that a future referendum on the same issue, even when the implications have since become clear, most definitely should not happen. This is known as pulling up the drawbridge.

I understand completely why a Leave voter, excited and perhaps astonished that they got away with it on June 23, should not want to run the risk again. Don't blame you at all. I'd do the same. But don't be surprised if people point out the inconsistency.

Is that what pulling up the drawbridge means? It refers to a second referendum? Good to know.

But yes you are correct I was in favour of Parliament voting to allow us a “once in a lifetime” opportunity of voting on the issue of The EU. I also respect the recent parliamentary vote deciding against having another “once in a lifetime “referendum. I respect the original premise that we will vote(once in a lifetime) on the subject and issue an instruction on the government to carry it out, an instruction they promised they would abide by and fulfil.
This is entirely consistent with the procedure that was promised. Not inconsistent at all.

You however seem very confused, on the one hand you are saying referendums should not happen at all on this complex issue and should be left up to parliament yet you want parliament taken out of the loop and want the people to have another go using a mechanism you don’t agree with and which parliament has voted against having again.
Looks like you have broken that Drawbridge.
 


Berty23

Well-known member
Jun 26, 2012
3,618
Who said you did? Yes, the pound has fallen by a significant amount which according to those experts was likely to happen at some point.

How do you know we are leaving on WTO terms?

Let's wait and see what the PM says in her speech in a week or two. If we don't reach agreement with EU (which is looking increasingly) unlikely then WTO it is. Time will tell.

It would be great if you could supply a list of experts we can believe and those we can't. You seem reliant on the views of economists here but dismissive elsewhere. Odd.
 


pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
No, no. I just find your MO a bit desperate. Rather than have a look at the thread and see if you can add anything interesting or relevant you trawl through the last 24 hours and write insulting angry responses to every Remainer on here. I just think there's better ways to wake up of a morning. Must be exhausting.
I look forward to your early morning review tomorrow!

Yep, as mentioned I knew that wouldn’t be the last time you referenced about what time a post is made.
 




melias shoes

Well-known member
Oct 14, 2010
4,830
The headline from the Express 'Brexit U-turn: Billionaire Bill Gates now thinks that the UK can THRIVE outside the EU'

The two lines from Bill Gates that caused this headline

Bill Gates, 61, has said that Britain can remain a world-leading science and technology hub if it maintains investment in research and development.

He told The Daily Telegraph that he thinks Britain’s scientific research could continue.


The lines from Gates that obviously had no effect on the headline

The Microsoft founder said before the referendum that a vote to leave the European Union would make Britain “significantly less attractive place to do business and invest” and could jeopardise Britain’s science community.

He said in a letter to The Times that Britain would be “stronger, more prosperous and more influential” inside the EU.

Mr Gates said his philanthropic foundation, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, invested in the UK because of Britain’s access to the Single Market.

He said: “While ultimately a matter for the British people to decide, it is clear to me that if Britain chooses to be outside of Europe, it will be a significantly less attractive place to do business and to invest.

“It will be harder to find and recruit the best talent from across the Continent; talent which, in turn, creates jobs for people in the UK.


Maybe you should read more than the headline before posting links :facepalm:

Hard to take isn't it.
 


Two Professors

Two Mad Professors
Jul 13, 2009
7,617
Multicultural Brum
Pleasant on here without Beavis and Butthead-they must be off getting a bile refill.Thought remainers were the biggest whiners on the planet,but they've just been overtaken by Hillary Clinton in her new whinefest of a book!:lolol:
 


melias shoes

Well-known member
Oct 14, 2010
4,830
Don't be silly. The UK buys loads and loads of German cars and drinks gallons of Prosecco. Plenty of Brexiteers have told us this. You have them over a barrel so how can it be the EU are making such demands? Tell them where to go.

Personally I would tell them where to go.:bigwave:
 


pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
He hates the balance of the Beeb which is world renowned, little surprise you will regularly see him on Fox News, the kinda of gutter press where he is at home

I’m fairly certain it is not the instances of BBC balance that he hates.
Not surprised he hates them and im not surprised he is asking them for a public apology concerning they broadcasted he had blood on his hands regarding the terrible death of that Polish bloke in Harlow which the BBC tried ever so hard and wrongly to link as a Brexit related hate crime.
 




Jan 30, 2008
31,981
Take your rose coloured Brexit spec's off

Slowest performing economy in the EU and the G7 so far this year. Thankfully those pesky foreigners are visiting our shores and buying our goods in Europe, so its not quite disaster yet
oh bore off , you and your side kicks sounding sooooooooooooooooooo DESPERATE :rolleyes:
regards
DR
 


Lincoln Imp

Well-known member
Feb 2, 2009
5,964
You however seem very confused, on the one hand you are saying referendums should not happen at all on this complex issue and should be left up to parliament yet you want parliament taken out of the loop and want the people to have another go using a mechanism you don’t agree with and which parliament has voted against having again.
Looks like you have broken that Drawbridge.

I have always argued against referendums on national issues and, whilst I can certainly understand the case for a follow up to the last one once the consequences are known, my preference would be for a general election. If you're determined to find inconsistency consider your own position - joyful that the last referendum was held but furious that another one might be. And as for a Brexiter accusing someone of wanting to take Parliament out of the loop, well, I can only admire the chutzpah...
 


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