[Politics] Brexit

[GT49er]

No veto. They can just vote to leave. If we think we subsidise the scots now, wait until we really have to persuade them to stay

They can only vote if a vote to have a referendum is passed by the Westminster (ie the UK) parliament.

 

[Soulman]

No veto. They can just vote to leave. If we think we subsidise the scots now, wait until we really have to persuade them to stay

Why do "we really have to persuade them to stay".

 

[Hampster Gull]

They can only vote if a vote to have a referendum is passed by the Westminster (ie the UK) parliament.

You can't rule over people who don't want to be ruled. Remember the empire?

 

[Hampster Gull]

Why do "we really have to persuade them to stay".

Not sure if thats a retorical question so will just say time will tell

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

You can't rule over people who don't want to be ruled. Remember the empire?

The EU empire?

 

[GT49er]

You can't rule over people who don't want to be ruled. Remember the empire?

Oh yeh, there'll be blood on the streets of Raith ... ... ... ....

 

[Soulman]

Not sure if thats a retorical question so will just say time will tell

Well they have already had a referendum to be independent, talk of another, talk of them staying in the EU and breaking away....so "Why do "we really have to persuade them to stay".

 

[Hampster Gull]

Well they have already had a referendum to be independent, talk of another, talk of them staying in the EU and breaking away....so "Why do "we really have to persuade them to stay".

We don't, we can let them go their own way once they vote for it

 

[Soulman]

Oh dear, another deluded person blaming Brexit....


Chris Bryant MP
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@RhonddaBryant

Turkey is now and has long been a lynch pin in European and wider security. Ludicrous Brexit lies undoubtedly contributed to destabilising
11:56 PM - 15 Jul 2016

 

[GT49er]

We don't, we can let them go their own way once they vote for it

No, you're not quite right there. "We don't, we can let them go their own way once we let them, by an Act of Parliament, vote for it." May not suit your agenda, of course ............

 

[Soulman]

We don't, we can let them go their own way once they vote for it

Yep, which means we really do not need to "persuade them to stay".

 

[Hampster Gull]

Yep, which means we really do not need to "persuade them to stay".

The inevitable drift to irrelevance seems to be the strategy of a few on here. Oh well

 

[GT49er]

Oh dear, another deluded person blaming Brexit....


Chris Bryant MP
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@RhonddaBryant

Turkey is now and has long been a lynch pin in European and wider security. Ludicrous Brexit lies undoubtedly contributed to destabilising
11:56 PM - 15 Jul 2016

Not to mention the outbreak of salmonella it has caused.

 

[ManOfSussex]

Oh dear, another deluded person blaming Brexit....


Chris Bryant MP
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@RhonddaBryant

Turkey is now and has long been a lynch pin in European and wider security. Ludicrous Brexit lies undoubtedly contributed to destabilising
11:56 PM - 15 Jul 2016

Very deluded comments. Even the secretary of state for leaving the European Union can make them - https://inews.co.uk/essentials/news...-trading-area-10-times-the-size-of-the-earth/

 

[pastafarian]

2025 was a joke, but it is as good a guess as any.

May said Article 50 will be a UK-wide thing and will need consent from Scotland. She knows that this gives the nationalists the ammo they need to break away. At the very least Scotland will be afforded some protections to stay within the EU.

2025 is your best guess now.
you really are the gift that keeps on giving.

i would love to see the expression on your face when you finally wake up and realise we are actually leaving The EU.

 

[Seasider78]

2025 was a joke, but it is as good a guess as any.

May said Article 50 will be a UK-wide thing and will need consent from Scotland. She knows that this gives the nationalists the ammo they need to break away. At the very least Scotland will be afforded some protections to stay within the EU.

Scotland will not be able to stay as part of the EU when the UK leaves and the idea that the UK can part exit with Scotland remaining is laughable. This will result in Scotland having to leave the UK and a new independent Scotland joining the EU as a new member which would require them to take the Euro.

For all her posturing Sturgeon knows this and with North Sea oil posting its first losses in its history the idea that Scotland can cut themselves loose from the UK and thrive under the Euro is simply ridiculous.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Watched that Brexit programme for about 10 mins last night and in the end turned it off. Stupid women in the front row, seen her on other programmes. She likes to try and find racism in absolutely everything. Sooner these people sod off, the better. We have had 10-15 years of this crap, it is time to move on.

 

[Lincoln Imp]

Scotland will not be able to stay as part of the EU when the UK leaves and the idea that the UK can part exit with Scotland remaining is laughable. This will result in Scotland having to leave the UK and a new independent Scotland joining the EU as a new member which would require them to take the Euro.

For all her posturing Sturgeon knows this and with North Sea oil posting its first losses in its history the idea that Scotland can cut themselves loose from the UK and thrive under the Euro is simply ridiculous.

Scotland could leave the UK only as the result of a referendum and the timing of any referendum is essentially in the gift of Westminster. For this reason alone, I think you are right - unless Sturgeon can think of a way to make May agree to a second Scottish referendum (and the SNP win it) before the conclusion of the exit process then Scotland will have to leave with the rest of the UK. I can't think of such a way myself. Your use of the word 'laughable' was as unnecessary as it was predictable though. On your second point, I am not so sure. The EU might want to bend over backwards to support a Scottish accession and such an accession might not be the disaster you predict. Super civilised Edinburgh might attract financial institutions from the City of London and the rest of Scotland could be of interest to the 70-odd per cent of FDI companies in the UK that cite our membership of the EU as being an important reason for them being here.

 

[marshy68]

I personally believe the more important the decision, the more need for democracy.

64% of the electorate voted against the tory govt in 2015

 

[Titanic]

64% of the electorate voted against the tory govt in 2015

They didn't though, did they? They just chose to place their vote with someone else. That is not the same as voting against something.