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Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bill Arrcher`s friend

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What might have happened had we stuck with one of the richest men in Britain (now)
Ahh, so it was US who kicked HIM out then. He really didn't want to sell the ground and go back to Wigan with a few million tucked in his back pocket. He wanted to stay as chairman of a homeless club at the bottom of the league playing at Pompey.

Dammit, its all so clear now. Yes, we should have stuck with him shouldn't we.
 




ROSM

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Dec 26, 2005
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Just far enough away from LDC
there's a certain irony that we go for years with nobody meeting friends or colleagues of Bill Archer and then with the 10th anniversary two come up on NSC in a week!

Of course - hypothetically - if these meetings did take place there appears to be some inconsistencies:

1) the move to Portsmouth was shot when Archer became Chairman. By then we'd already made a down payment of £200k

2) the baord met brighton and hove city council about a new ground and the club said they wanted waterhall. The council explained why it wasn't possible (for all the reasons the Public inquiry identified). The club PROMISED at that meeting that the ground wouldn't be sold.
Two weeks later the story of the sale broke and the board claimed the council had indicated that they could biuld at waterhall backed with a retail development at patch court farm. All of course were incorrect.

3) Then we have toads hole - rejected by the highways agency and then withdrawn by the club

No plans, no morals and no money!
 


C.Gull

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Jan 29, 2007
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At least we knew where we stood with Archer,he wanted out with as much as he could pocket.
Things could only get better, so we thought.Dick Knight and Co came along promising cash for new signings,however in fact after getting rid of the players we could not afford on long contracts little cash was provided to strengthen the team.
The manager was sacked for poor performances and a number of well qualified managers took his place but the situation did not improve because the board were incapable of providing the necessary financial backing.
Ten years on we are hardly surviving in Div1 with little prospect of any improvement.
 


dougdeep

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C.Gull said:
At least we knew where we stood with Archer,he wanted out with as much as he could pocket.
Things could only get better, so we thought.Dick Knight and Co came along promising cash for new signings,however in fact after getting rid of the players we could not afford on long contracts little cash was provided to strengthen the team.
The manager was sacked for poor performances and a number of well qualified managers took his place but the situation did not improve because the board were incapable of providing the necessary financial backing.
Ten years on we are hardly surviving in Div1 with little prospect of any improvement.

You forgot the million plus that Dick put in out of his own money just to keep us afloat. :)
 


C.Gull said:
Dick Knight and Co came along promising cash for new signings
That's a bit of an oversimplification, to say the least.

What I remember DK promising was the survival of the football club, a return to Brighton, a workable plan for a permanent home and an upturn in the Club's fortunes.

That's what we got.

Plus a few "new signings" along the way.
 




The Large One

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Jul 7, 2003
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C.Gull said:
At least we knew where we stood with Archer,he wanted out with as much as he could pocket.
Things could only get better, so we thought.Dick Knight and Co came along promising cash for new signings,however in fact after getting rid of the players we could not afford on long contracts little cash was provided to strengthen the team.
The manager was sacked for poor performances and a number of well qualified managers took his place but the situation did not improve because the board were incapable of providing the necessary financial backing.
Ten years on we are hardly surviving in Div1 with little prospect of any improvement.
There was the small matter that the information supplied by Archer to Knight before the take-over was a pack of lies, and that the club was in a far worse condition that Archer said it was.

Money ear-marked for squad strenghthening, return to Brighton etc had to put into other things... like merely keeping in existence.

There's plenty of prospect for improvement - it's called... Falmer.
 


Barrel of Fun

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Lord Bracknell said:
That's a bit of an oversimplification, to say the least.

What I remember DK promising was the survival of the football club, a return to Brighton, a workable plan for a permanent home and an upturn in the Club's fortunes.

That's what we got.

Plus a few "new signings" along the way.

You have to remember, Lord B, that most expect a Russian to takeover and throw cash about - willy nilly. It is the new black (if I am allowed to say that).
 


Yorkie

Sussex born and bred
Jul 5, 2003
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dahn sarf
Lord Bracknell said:
That's a bit of an oversimplification, to say the least.

What I remember DK promising was the survival of the football club, a return to Brighton, a workable plan for a permanent home and an upturn in the Club's fortunes.

That's what we got.

Plus a few "new signings" along the way.

And two championships, a play off final and three years in the second tier of English football with a few 'scalps'
Any delays in improvement are purely down to politicians not the board.
 




Freddie Goodwin.

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Mar 31, 2007
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Archer, apoparently, is in The Times Rich list with £150m. Knight has never claimed to have had money.

So which should we choose? A greedy bastard who, despite being stinking rich, could not resist seeing cash in our real estate or a supporter who has done his upmost to keep the club afloat?
 




The Large One

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BensGrandad said:
That was not through his choice DK was forced into going to Brighton Council to ask to go to Withdean.
What sort of question is that?

Of course it was not a choice to return to Brighton, it was a No.1 priority. And who else is he going to ask to stage games there? Even if it was at someone else's private site, he'd still have to ask Brighton & Hove City Council.
 




BensGrandad

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Jul 13, 2003
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We came back to Brighton because nobody else would lend/hire us a ground.

At the time the other club chairmen were very sceptical of whether DK could make it with no money. I was told that by a number of Chairmen, one actually said that we were wrong to go for DK and should stick with Archer.

They would probably think different now.
 


Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
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BensGrandad said:
At the time the other club chairmen were very sceptical of whether DK could make it with no money. I was told that by a number of Chairmen, one actually said that we were wrong to go for DK and should stick with Archer.

They would probably think different now.
WHAT CHAIRMEN ?
 






BensGrandad

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Jul 13, 2003
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WRONG

I had long since fallen out with him by that time as like everybody else was disgusted by his actions.

It would not be right for me to give names as it was so long ago and if the person was named he could deny it and I would be in the sh1t but I know what the truth is and what was said.
 
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Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
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So WHO then ?
Or are these numerous shady conversations from 10 years ago with various football league chairmen so highly sensitive and controversial that you're not allowed to tell us. Or you'd have to kill us.

Or something.
 




Yorkie

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Jul 5, 2003
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BensGrandad said:
See my previous post and as far as I am concerned it is water under the bridge.

Like the bloke in the pub and the playoff money?
 






The Large One

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BensGrandad said:
We came back to Brighton because nobody else would lend/hire us a ground.
We had to go to Gillingham because nowhere in Brighton was suitable or available in such a short space of time. We came back to Brighton because that was where we needed to be, not because no-one would have us.

Good f***ing grief Brian, have you been drinking the Harpic again?
 


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