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Biggest city without top football team?



Herr Tubthumper

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no, because brighton & hove HAS been represented in the top flight, regardless of it's status at the time

and the question is about 'top flight' not 'premiership', so it's not cardiff either

(because it's plymouth)

Did anyone get my subtle dig at the Premiership?
 


Notters

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I still maintain it should be done by conurbation so it's clearly West Yorkshire (Leeds):
 

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As we have already established, the Biggest city in England that as never had a top flight team, is now Plymouth. I Believe that Hull used to also be the biggest city in Europe without a top flight team, I believe that honnour now falls to Wisbaden in Germany.

I remember reading somewhere that the Largest place In england to never have a PROFESSIONAL (meaning the top 4 divisions) football team in England is Wakefield (as many on here have already stated).
 






Gwylan

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As we have already established, the Biggest city in England that as never had a top flight team, is now Plymouth. I Believe that Hull used to also be the biggest city in Europe without a top flight team, I believe that honnour now falls to Wisbaden in Germany.

I remember reading somewhere that the Largest place In england to never have a PROFESSIONAL (meaning the top 4 divisions) football team in England is Wakefield (as many on here have already stated).

But that's surely only if you count Wakefield as the entire district (in which case it beats Plymouth anyway). If you're only counting Wakefield itself, it's beaten by several places including Gloucester - which I think might be the biggest without pro football.
 


Notters

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Except leeds have seen top flight football.

If we're talking about ever... Have Tranmere ever been in the top flight? If not then Birkenhead is the correct answer.

EDIT: Brighton is the correct answer, Birkenhead comes second.

EDIT 2: I'm a moron ^^^ Birkenhead is the correct answer.
 
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Gwylan

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If we're talking about ever... Have Tranmere ever been in the top flight? If not then Birkenhead is the correct answer.

EDIT: Brighton is the correct answer, Birkenhead comes second.

You've not been following Brighton long have you? :)
 






Gwylan

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If leeds utd's 1992 Divison One championship season is too long ago to count, I think 1983 is too ;)

The question is not about now and it's not just about the Prem - it's about which place has never seen top-flight football.

Leeds and Brighton both clearly have been in the top flight

I think we've all agreed the answer is Plymouth
 


Notters

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The question is not about now and it's not just about the Prem - it's about which place has never seen top-flight football.

Leeds and Brighton both clearly have been in the top flight

I think we've all agreed the answer is Plymouth

NO, Birkenhead!
 






perseus

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Aha ! Its Brighton. When Brighton were in the top flight we were not a City.

How was that question worded again?

"What's the biggest British city/town not to have hosted top division football?"

Well as a city we haven't! But as a town we have!
 






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The question is not about now and it's not just about the Prem - it's about which place has never seen top-flight football.

Leeds and Brighton both clearly have been in the top flight

I think we've all agreed the answer is Plymouth

I was making reference to Notters listing leeds as not having played top flight football.
 




withdeanwombat

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no, because brighton & hove HAS been represented in the top flight, regardless of it's status at the time

and the question is about 'top flight' not 'premiership', so it's not cardiff either

(because it's plymouth)

No,no............I meant Brighton and Hove were then two towns,so grammatically you should say HAVE, not HAS.The qn as stated asks which town,so technically neither Brighton,nor Hove,nor Brighton and Hove (city) Albion have been in the top flight,though have been jointly represented in the past.

Though I'd PREFER it to be Plymouth.
 


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Largest Cities in the UK
This is a list of the largest cities in the United Kingdom. Note that the population statistic for London refers to Greater London which according to the "official definition" is not considered a city. City Population
London 7.2 Million
Birmingham 992000
Leeds 720000
Glasgow 560000
Sheffield 512000
Bradford 467000
Edinburgh 450000
Liverpool 440000
Manchester 420000
Bristol 380000
Wakefield 316000
Cardiff 310000
Coventry 305000
Nottingham 285000
Leicester 280000
Sunderland 280000
Belfast 280000
Newcastle upon Tyne 259000
Brighton 248000
Hull 240000
Plymouth 240000
Stoke-on-Trent 239000
Wolverhampton 239000
Derby 230000
Swansea 225000
Southampton 220000
Salford 215000
Aberdeen 215000
Westminster 190000
Portsmouth 186000
York 182000
Peterborough 157000
Dundee 145000
Lancaster 135000
Oxford 135000
Newport 135000
Preston 130000
St Albans 130000
Norwich 125000
Chester 118000
Cambridge 115000
Salisbury 115000
Exeter 111000
Gloucester 110000
Lisburn 110000
Chichester 108000
Winchester 108000
Londonderry 105000
Carlisle 101000
Worcester 93000
Bath 90000
Durham 87000
Lincoln 86000
Hereford 55000
Armagh 55000
Inverness 51000
Stirling 45000
Canterbury 42500
Lichfield 30000
Newry 30000
Ripon 24500
Bangor 20000
Truro 19000
Ely 14000
Wells 10000
St Davids 2000

So the answer is Wakefield if you include non league teams, and Plymouth if it is only league teams then? Thread over.
 




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Hull is/was just a town on 6th july 1897 a royal charter signed created the city of KINGSTON upon HULL. Just a small point:thumbsup:
 


Largest Cities in the UK
This is a list of the largest cities in the United Kingdom. Note that the population statistic for London refers to Greater London which according to the "official definition" is not considered a city. City Population
London 7.2 Million
Birmingham 992000
Leeds 720000
Glasgow 560000
Sheffield 512000
Bradford 467000
Edinburgh 450000
Liverpool 440000
Manchester 420000
Bristol 380000
Wakefield 316000
Cardiff 310000
Coventry 305000
Nottingham 285000
Leicester 280000
Sunderland 280000
Belfast 280000
Newcastle upon Tyne 259000
Brighton 248000
Hull 240000
Plymouth 240000
Stoke-on-Trent 239000
Wolverhampton 239000
Derby 230000
Swansea 225000
Southampton 220000
Salford 215000
Aberdeen 215000
Westminster 190000
Portsmouth 186000
York 182000
Peterborough 157000
Dundee 145000
Lancaster 135000
Oxford 135000
Newport 135000
Preston 130000
St Albans 130000
Norwich 125000
Chester 118000
Cambridge 115000
Salisbury 115000
Exeter 111000
Gloucester 110000
Lisburn 110000
Chichester 108000
Winchester 108000
Londonderry 105000
Carlisle 101000
Worcester 93000
Bath 90000
Durham 87000
Lincoln 86000
Hereford 55000
Armagh 55000
Inverness 51000
Stirling 45000
Canterbury 42500
Lichfield 30000
Newry 30000
Ripon 24500
Bangor 20000
Truro 19000
Ely 14000
Wells 10000
St Davids 2000

Off the top of my head, I can think of two missing cities i.e. Rochester and Beverley.
 


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