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Based on what you have heard/read about DW's sacking

If you were DW


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Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
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which is obviously not the full picture, what do you reckon you would do in his place?

Not meant to be anything but a bit of fun on a Tuesday morning to gauge NSC posters thoughts a couple of week after the event.
 
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JJ McClure

Go Jags
Jul 7, 2003
11,303
Hassocks
Look for a new job.
I hope he doesn't, but it doesn't exactly make you feel wanted does it?
 






Barrel of Fun

Abort, retry, fail
How could anyone continue to work for a boss who has treated you in this manner. How could you ever again hold any respect for him?

Particularly as it apparent that Dick Knight voiced his concerns to various people that are not employed by the club, when Dean Wilkins seemingly had little or no idea that Dick was set to fire him before results picked up.

I would walk and I feel he deserves better having worked extremely hard for the club over the years.
 






Knotty

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Feb 5, 2004
2,421
Canterbury
Particularly as it apparent that Dick Knight voiced his concerns to various people that are not employed by the club, when Dean Wilkins seemingly had little or no idea that Dick was set to fire him before results picked up.

I would walk and I feel he deserves better having worked extremely hard for the club over the years.

Like most of us I simply don't know what led to this but, sometimes, working hard is not everything.

I once had a job that I worked very hard at....but I wasn't right for it or good at it.
 
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Tooting Gull

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Jul 5, 2003
11,035
Totally agree with that point about hard work sometimes not being enough. Steve McClaren probably worked hard.

But to be honest, it feels right now as if Wilkins has been absolutely shafted and humiliated by Knight on this one - but the truth is we don't know if it was the right thing to do, and won't for maybe two seasons. If there is gain to beat the pain, you have to give Knight some credit. But it's a huge call.

If I was Wilkins I would look for a new job.
 




Mellor 3 Ward 4

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Jul 27, 2004
10,600
saaf of the water
How could anyone continue to work for a boss who has treated you in this manner. How could you ever again hold any respect for him?


Agree with that.

As I've said before, risky stratergy by Knight. If we're not in the top half dozen at Christmas, the pressure will be on him as well as Adams.
 


Wardy

NSC's Benefits Guru
Oct 9, 2003
11,219
In front of the PC
I think it all depends on what he FEELS for the club. He is bound to be upset and if he does not really care for the club then I would take the money and say goodbye. However if like I am sure he does, he loves the club then I think I would stay and try to have an input in to what is going to be a very important 2 years in this clubs history.

Lets face it if he is still here and it all goes wrong, he is in the right place to be able to step in to a caretaker role and prove his worth again.

Though having said all that this is his job and he needs to do the best by his family. Having no idea of his financial or personal situation it makes it hard to decided. But if he needs the cash and he is offered a managers role, even on the same money that we are offering him to be a coach, then I would take it and start my move up the managerial ladder.
 


Knotty

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Feb 5, 2004
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Canterbury
Totally agree with that point about hard work sometimes not being enough. Steve McClaren probably worked hard.

But to be honest, it feels right now as if Wilkins has been absolutely shafted and humiliated by Knight on this one - but the truth is we don't know if it was the right thing to do, and won't for maybe two seasons. If there is gain to beat the pain, you have to give Knight some credit. But it's a huge call.

If I was Wilkins I would look for a new job.

You may be right that DW has been shafted, but I can't hold that view without knowing all the reasons why it was done. I have said many times that DK won't have done it for fun; he will have had what he and board believed were solid reasons.

Until and unless we are told what those reasons were, I would prefer not to make a judgement either way. It is too easy to make a judgement with the heart when the head knows nothing.

I have an enormous amount of respect for Dean and I really hope that, if he leaves he will do so quietly with dignity. He doesn't seem the type of person who would leave and vent his anger with public recriminations and revelations, and, if he did that, prospective future employers would not be impressed.
 




fosters headband

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Aug 15, 2003
5,168
Brighton
The thing I find hard to accept in the decision to remove DW was the fact and I think I am correct here, Dean Wilkins did not want the job in the first place.
He was asked to take the job on by DK and the board when he had no experience at this level.
And just when he appeared to be turning the club around he gets removed from the post. It does show that the man at the top can make real cock ups only to put them right at other peoples expense.
 


Brovion

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Jul 6, 2003
20,308
Totally agree with that point about hard work sometimes not being enough. Steve McClaren probably worked hard.

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The interesting thing though is that managers (and their chairmen) always say they are in 'the results business'. You see any number of quotes from chairmen after they've sacked a manager along the lines of: "I like Bryan as a person but at the end of the day its all about results .... blah blah blah." In Wilkins case it obviously wasn't all about results; there were 'other things' (hinted at on here but never divulged) that lead to his dismissal - swearing loudly down his mobile during matches perhaps.

TBH I don't think the club either expect or want him to stay; it will be too embarrassing for all concerned. The offer of the coaching role was just so they didn't look like complete bastards; they don't really want him skulking around like Banquo's ghost if it all goes horribly wrong for Adams next season.
 


Knotty

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Feb 5, 2004
2,421
Canterbury
The thing I find hard to accept in the decision to remove DW was the fact and I think I am correct here, Dean Wilkins did not want the job in the first place.
He was asked to take the job on by DK and the board when he had no experience at this level.
And just when he appeared to be turning the club around he gets removed from the post. It does show that the man at the top can make real cock ups only to put them right at other peoples expense.

I didn't know that he didn't want the job in the first place. Why did he take it then?
 




newhaven seagull 85

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Dec 3, 2006
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stay and learn from experience , come back stronger and more determined to prove dk wrong.
 




Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
31,700
Wilkins needs to get a new job. He shouldn't be short of offers because he's done well as a youth team coach and a manager.

Football is a harsh business, so take the money you're due and go.

However bad Wilkins feels Avram Grant must feel twice as bad.
 






Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
72,015
Stay, where else is he gunna get a job.

Harsh

I would think he could land a job at a higher placed club than us.

Imo, we can thank DW for the fact that we have a crop of exciting youngsters and there are plenty of teams who'd like to see the quality that has come through at little comparative expense and a very big part of that is down to DW.

I reckon he'd be well in demand on the youth development side.
 


B.W.

New member
Jul 5, 2003
13,666
Stick around as coach... he won't get a better job...
 


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