Baroness Thatcher - Dead / RIP

[Hotchilidog]

No idea.

However unlike Churchill she is not having a full state funeral, which I suspect she is entitled to, as technically she was a war time leader.

I will await the full details before passing on any further comment then.

 

[Barry Izbak]

R.I.P. great leader, and by far the best Prime Minister in my lifetime.

I won't read this whole thread because there will doubtless be some disgusting comments from people who have no class or no respect.

Those people, if they were even alive during the 1980s, would do well to listen to Roy Hattersley on The World at One this lunchtime on radio 4.
He said he disagreed with almost everything she ever did or said, but that she was a leader who stuck to her principles, who believed in what she said and that he had great respect for her as a person.

I thank heavens that she did what she did and just wish we had some conviction politicians with a fraction of her determination to do what they think is right for this country.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

But for some people, her politics did destroy their livelihoods. I'm not condoning it, but you can understand where the anger stems from?

This.

 

[Racek]

Think there are a lot of bandwagon jumpers here who are ill-informed - as the BBC are saying there is NO state funeral......at Thatchers request, if anything the jumpers are doing what Thatcher wants !!

I never said it was. I said it was going around.

 

[backson]

It's interesting that people talk about her policies not being popular but yet she won three general elections.

History would suggest her policies were popular.

Or that Foot and Kinnock were unelectable.

 

[El Presidente]

In other news today, the biggest grossing film in the US this week is The Evil Dead.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-22062349

 

[JCL666]

Yes, absolutely. The mines were no longer viable, and costing too much to keep open. Simple as that. I have spoken with many people from mining families as I live in the midlands and meet them for work, football and rugby. Do you have any evidence for your bitterness?

The mines were viable, there's plenty of documented evidence for it that is widely available on the internet. Taking on the miners was nothing to do with the economics of the mining industry. Try reading about the Ridley Plan.

I have spent time in areas that were former mining communities, and your comments about miners and mining families does not sound remotely like my experience.

 

[pork pie]

I'm old enough, I grew up in Derbyshire (big mining area if you are young) and I know how she is regarded back home..... I really hope that those who champion her recognise that not all of us judge the state of the nation by the material wealth of the South-East....

How many do you know that would prefer to work down a pit to where they work now. Second thoughts, work where they were before Labour ruined the whole country? The scum round here cannot see beyond voting for any muppet that gets a red rosette pinned on them. Too bloody thick to most of them.

 

[El Presidente]

I wish we had some conviction politicians with a fraction of her determination to do what they think is right for this country.

.....a bit like North Korea?

 

[HawkTheSeagull]

I never said it was. I said it was going around.

I know, i was just commenting on the person who made it and those who have signed it

 

[Silk]

RIP IRON LADY.
I salute you The last time this country was GREAT BRITAIN was with Thatcher as prime minister

Yes, when she first took the job though, not by the time she left it.

 

[mikeyjh]

Yes, no doubt some miners at the time. But they were not viable, and have far better standards of living now after the money she pumped into their areas to regenerate them. Just because some people lots their jobs, it was still the right thing to do at the time. Have you ever spoken to people who's dads were miners, and asked them if they feel lucky not to have followed them down pits, and to be in decent modern jobs now? I have, and they do!

You really don't have a clue do you? You know what, why don't you go and visit some of the towns and villages in Yorkshire that have 'far better standards of living now', share your thoughts and see what they have to say?

 

[The Large One]

How many do you know that would prefer to work down a pit to where they work now. Second thoughts, work where they were before Labour ruined the whole country? The scum round here cannot see beyond voting for any muppet that gets a red rosette pinned on them. Too bloody thick to most of them.

I've only just finished repairing my irony-meter from your previous drivel.

 

[Pavilionaire]

Ironically, her legacy is most obvious by looking at the Labour party. She changed the face of Britain so much that it is now entirely unthinkable for the UK electorate to vote in a socialist government a la Harold Wilson or Jim Callaghan.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

Yes, no doubt some miners at the time. But they were not viable, and have far better standards of living now after the money she pumped into their areas to regenerate them. Just because some people lots their jobs, it was still the right thing to do at the time. Have you ever spoken to people who's dads were miners, and asked them if they feel lucky not to have followed them down pits, and to be in decent modern jobs now? I have, and they do!

There were pits that were economically viable on the closure list with decades of coal reserves left , the NCB knew that once closed and the pumps switched off they would be virtually impossible to re-open due to flooding and structural damage.

 

[edna krabappel]

...and closes in February 2014. Unless there is a very long and protracted autopsy, I reckon she might have been buried or cremated by then.

Starting an online petition to stop something happening that isn't happening anyway sounds a little bit Brass Eye, doesn't it?

Hey, why not sign my new e-petition, folks: Stop The Championship Play Off Final Being Moved To The National Stadium In Manila, On A Wednesday Night, In Cyclone Season

 

[backson]

Other headline on BBC News...

UK retailers ration baby milk

There's ways and means of paying respect, but please....

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

No idea.

However unlike Churchill she is not having a full state funeral, which I suspect she is entitled to, as technically she was a war time leader.

Was she?

 

[Meade's Ball]

Well, i am reasonably pleased. Very much a figurehead of countless things and ways of being i thoroughly object to. Sadly the effects of all she should stood for hideously continue and even what once was even slightly left had to centralise to win votes from the generally greedy.
I'm not glad a human has perished, but the symbol of what seemed inhumane to me.

 

[Seagull58]

Yes, when she first took the job though, not by the time she left it.

You forget the "winter of discontent" that preceded her and the motion of no confidence in Callaghan that led to her election. The country was in turmoil and decline.