Don Quixote
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It is because they seem to suggest being homosexual is a bad thing which is wrong.
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Are you offended by the gay taunts from opposing fans
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raymondbriggs
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No.
They can suggest all they like, it doesn't make them right. As others have said here earlier, if you continually go down that road, where do you stop? It would be a very bland experience if there were no taunting, goading etc. (within reason - again, a very subjective thing) during a football match, as it is after all a kind of partisan/tribal event.
Without reading the whole thread it's "other". I'm most offended by the stupidity and total lack of originality of the chants. I don't take offence in being called gay though. Given my hairstyle, belly girth and taste in lampshades it's quite a compliment.
Worthingite
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Just seen this on SE Today....... I've got to be honest, we didn't come out of that report well at all. Came across as "Miss, Miss, they called us bad names, please tell them off otherwise I'll thqueam and thqueam until i'm thick".
Without coming across all "casual" - if we "stamp" out the "homophobic" chanting, we can kiss goodbye to the "Sheep shagger", the "Dirty northern *******s" and even (gulp) "You burnt down your town" chants. It is what it is, and it's part of who we are in the world of football. You stop the "we can see you holding hands" and the like, and where will it end??
Without coming across all "casual" - if we "stamp" out the "homophobic" chanting, we can kiss goodbye to the "Sheep shagger", the "Dirty northern *******s" and even (gulp) "You burnt down your town" chants. It is what it is, and it's part of who we are in the world of football. You stop the "we can see you holding hands" and the like, and where will it end??
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Goring-by-Seagull
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I've never understood it. Why would I be offended by someone implying that I'm/calling me gay? I'm not. Would I be offended if they were chanting about me being straight? Nope. I don't get it. I really don't.
Same as I've never understood racism. If someone called me a white <insert offensive word here> then yes, I'm white, congratulations,and for all you know I may well just be a <insert offensive word here>. Why does it matter what colour you are to be called names!? What about fat people and ugly people, blonde girls, ginger people etc etc. I have a MASSIVE nose which I'm pretty happy with, and got called a Jew all the way through school.. What does that matter? Who is it offending? Jewish people? People just whinging about whinging.
Same as I've never understood racism. If someone called me a white <insert offensive word here> then yes, I'm white, congratulations,and for all you know I may well just be a <insert offensive word here>. Why does it matter what colour you are to be called names!? What about fat people and ugly people, blonde girls, ginger people etc etc. I have a MASSIVE nose which I'm pretty happy with, and got called a Jew all the way through school.. What does that matter? Who is it offending? Jewish people? People just whinging about whinging.
Your opinion is about as informed as your use of grammar.
Puppet Master
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What's worse than homophobia? Acceptance of homophobia. Next time I hear of someone being discriminated against in say, the workplace because of their sexuality I'll be sure to tell them to man up, grow a pair, it's only banter....
Justice
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Exactly. One of the laziest arguments is that "it's the same as racism was in the 1970s." No it isn't. The racist chants were aimed at specific individuals because of the color of their skin. If there was an openly gay player being subjected to chants about his homosexuality THEN it would be the same and I'd be 100% in favour of stamping it out. But it isn't, it's not even close. That report on South Today made me embarrassed to be a Brighton fan. The one point no one has explained is exactly how is the chanting homophobic as opposed to just crude and unpleasant?
Tyrone Biggums
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A sincere question. Why do you give a crap what other fans think?
Why would you be embarrassed to be associated with something positive?
Morning Tyrone! (Well, morning for me)
I give a crap when it reflects badly, IMO, on our club.
And as I said yesterday I don't see it as positive.
Tyrone Biggums
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The singing of anti gay chants IMO is not aimed specifically at any gay Brighton fans.
It is aimed at the crowd in general, to try to wind them up that they are all gay.
Just a chant, one of many, insulting each other, and Brighton fans do this too.
Away from the ground, it does not endanger gays, and the general trend over the last 40 years is far more acceptance by the public at large.
Just another song, and in no way in the same category of a racist chant aimed at a black person.
It is aimed at the crowd in general, to try to wind them up that they are all gay.
Just a chant, one of many, insulting each other, and Brighton fans do this too.
Away from the ground, it does not endanger gays, and the general trend over the last 40 years is far more acceptance by the public at large.
Just another song, and in no way in the same category of a racist chant aimed at a black person.
Tyrone Biggums
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I think it makes Brighton look pretty darn good.
If these sorts of chants went up at other sporting events around the world the sport in question and its fans would round on on those doing it with a fast and speedy course of action.
It makes football crowds seem puerile and idiotic compared to other sports.
After all, who does it make Brighton look bad in the eyes of? The very same morons who start such chants?
Wouldn't give two runny squirts out of the back passage what those twats think.
pork pie
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That is where, for me, the line is all these "hate crimes" starts. NO individual should be subjected to abuse or disadvantaged for ANY reason. Where are the laws banning abuse of people with ginger hair? Or fat people?
As I posted earlier, there are far worse things happen at football such as grown men frothing at the mouth in front of their children. The dislike of Brighton fans in general because we are all perceived to be "queers" is frankly simply insulting and worthy of a smack in the face, rather than going to complain to anyone.
pork pie
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So you really think the good people of Oz would start a fight to defend people who are perceived to be "gay", at a rugby match for example? Wow!
Tyrone Biggums
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I think it's not in our culture to chant at sports in so far as to hurl racist or homophobic abuse out side of a singular boof head doing it. Certainly not hundreds of people doing it at once.
The only sport that seems to require fans to be segregated is soccer out here. Fans sit in among each other with almost all other sports.
And I don't think people would start a fight, however the people in charge of those sports organisations wouldn't put up with such childish crap.
There was a recent case out here where a football player called another played an effing homo or something like that and the league came down hard on the issue after an umpire reported it. He was fined $3000 and made to undergo an education program.
I simply think 30-40 year old men chanting such drivel would have to be one of the most pathetic sights one could see.