Are we a bunch of girls blouses.?

[Thunder Bolt]

Well stop writing crap then. The games changed. I'll see if I can find some old Pathe news footage for you.

The game hasn't changed that much. The OP is posting nonsense. I watched games in the 60s, & tackles were harder but there wasn't much thuggery, just an occasional player as is the case nowadays. I can remember the likes of Norman Hunter for Leeds, who would commit sliding tackles, but didn't stamp on people.

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

Reaches for the Horlicks and custard creams

odd combo,i like both but never tried together....

 

[JC Footy Genius]

I thought the Burnley game was probably the best game I have seen at the Amex. Loads of fans think the ref was useless, Barton was an assassin, Naylor is a plonker for defending Barton etc etc. I remember games full of of thuggery and controversy from the the sixties and seventies which would have made Saturday's game seem like a friendly kick about.
Fans these days think that a blood and thunder tackle should be a red card and slag off all and sundry and go nuts if the player gives some wind up back at the crowd.
Excitement and passion is what it's all about for me and the Burnley game had it in spades. Can't wait for the last 7 games.

Agree with a lot of what you say. We all like a good villain but Barton's actions were OTT and the fact he got away with it adds insult to the very real injury. The vitriol aimed at him was deserved but it is getting a bit boring now, time to move on.

 

[Stat Brother]

I just hope the team has got over Saturday better than NSC.

If it hasn't they won't even make the playoffs.

 

[sparkie]

I just hope the team has got over Saturday better than NSC.

If it hasn't they won't even make the playoffs.

Good point. We need to shut the book on this now and focus on tomorrow.

 

[darkwolf666]

No but I Like some aggression in the game. Every tackle gets calls for yellow and red cards these days. Grow some I say.

They used to send small children up chimneys to clean them, obviously tougher then our kids - didn't make it better times though!

 

[darkwolf666]

The game hasn't changed that much. The OP is posting nonsense. I watched games in the 60s, & tackles were harder but there wasn't much thuggery, just an occasional player as is the case nowadays. I can remember the likes of Norman Hunter for Leeds, who would commit sliding tackles, but didn't stamp on people.

Hamm seem to remember Hunter and Francis Lee having a full blown fight with Lee throwing windmill punches, not sure Hunter is the best to hold up as an example of hard but fair.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Hamm seem to remember Hunter and Francis Lee having a full blown fight with Lee throwing windmill punches, not sure Hunter is the best to hold up as an example of hard but fair.

Sure there have been punch ups but not thuggery. Trying to break someone's leg is thuggery.

 

[papajaff]

OP has made a great point. Who remembers 'Clarky's gonna get ya'. He broke Lil Fucillos's leg. What if Nobby Horton had made that leap and come down on someone's leg. Robin Friday kicked Lawro in the face and then shat in his bag. Jimmy Case could put himself about and we loved it.

Too much time spent on debating incident's in one ****ing game. Get over it, man up and concentrate on Brum away tomorrow.

 

[darkwolf666]

Sure there have been punch ups but not thuggery. Trying to break someone's leg is thuggery.

Think videos on YouTube show otherwise. Hunter and those of his era thought nothing of going through the back of the man and I hazard a guess that some of his tackles finished a career! Guess the difference is he was blatant while Barton was a snide!

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Think videos on YouTube show otherwise. Hunter and those of his era thought nothing of going through the back of the man and I hazard a guess that some of his tackles finished a career! Guess the difference is he was blatant while Barton was a snide!

You can hazard a guess but not find evidence. He played for England, as did Jack Charlton. They were hard but not thugs who ended careers.

 

[8th battalion East Lancs]

Hunter and those of his era thought nothing of going through the back of the man and I hazard a guess that some of his tackles finished a career!

Yes our very own Frank Casper. Norman C -unter.

 

[8th battalion East Lancs]

Trying to break someone's leg is thuggery.

How melodramatic.

 

[dsr-burnley]

The game hasn't changed that much. The OP is posting nonsense. I watched games in the 60s, & tackles were harder but there wasn't much thuggery, just an occasional player as is the case nowadays. I can remember the likes of Norman Hunter for Leeds, who would commit sliding tackles, but didn't stamp on people.

Players didn't need to be snide in the early '70s, because they could openly and deliberately break someone's leg and get only a booking. Frank Casper's career was ended, just after he got into the England squad, by Hunter. He had crossed the ball for the fourth goal in a 4-1 win at Elland Road, and was off the pitch, when Hunter took him out. Leeds were the biggest bunch of thugs in a fairly thuggish era (and their fans took after the players) and a lot of the "we hate Leeds" mentality that exists in the north, at least, comes from that era. Reaney and Eddie Gray were the only decent players they had.

 

[Big G]

I thought the Burnley game was probably the best game I have seen at the Amex. Loads of fans think the ref was useless, Barton was an assassin, Naylor is a plonker for defending Barton etc etc. I remember games full of of thuggery and controversy from the the sixties and seventies which would have made Saturday's game seem like a friendly kick about.
Fans these days think that a blood and thunder tackle should be a red card and slag off all and sundry and go nuts if the player gives some wind up back at the crowd.
Excitement and passion is what it's all about for me and the Burnley game had it in spades. Can't wait for the last 7 games.

I do actually get your point to be fair!
Real physical contest and a give it all your body can give game is great......but other than Barton realising Kayal had the better of him in every aspect and Barton having to resort to nothing more than a 2 bob show of his only known response!
The rest of their team were not like him and other than him, the game itself was not a really bad natured affair so don't think our team is in anyway a bit soft! And think our disciplinary record might suggest we arn't too soft?

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Players didn't need to be snide in the early '70s, because they could openly and deliberately break someone's leg and get only a booking. Frank Casper's career was ended, just after he got into the England squad, by Hunter. He had crossed the ball for the fourth goal in a 4-1 win at Elland Road, and was off the pitch, when Hunter took him out. Leeds were the biggest bunch of thugs in a fairly thuggish era (and their fans took after the players) and a lot of the "we hate Leeds" mentality that exists in the north, at least, comes from that era. Reaney and Eddie Gray were the only decent players they had.

I know that team as I was living there at the time, married to a Leeds fan.

We had a player called Richard Carpenter who broke a player's leg, which ended his career. It went to court when he was sued. I wouldn't call Chippy a thug.

 

[8th battalion East Lancs]

Reaney and Eddie Gray were the only decent players they had.

And Giles.

 

[Hampster Gull]

I just hope the team has got over Saturday better than NSC.

If it hasn't they won't even make the playoffs.

I've moved on

 

[Questions]

The game hasn't changed that much. The OP is posting nonsense. I watched games in the 60s, & tackles were harder but there wasn't much thuggery, just an occasional player as is the case nowadays. I can remember the likes of Norman Hunter for Leeds, who would commit sliding tackles, but didn't stamp on people.

You can't play the ball and then clean someone out like the tackle by Vinnie Jones on Gary Stevens which realistically ended his career. You have to be in some sort of control but I certainly take your point on the example you give about Hunter.

http://youtu.be/x4ldo4KNj3M

 

[fat old seagull]

And Giles.

....and Madeley, and Lorimer, and Cherry etc....but I didn't hate them then.