I’d say without, purely because I love formations with Ferguson as the one.
Welbeck hasn’t got the hunger of the young man. Can’t remember if it was Grimsby or CP (not looking up teams just now), a great opening by the NS pen spot occurred. Welbeck dithered for half a second allowing a defender to come across and clear. You could palpably see Welbeck over thinking it.
That said, so pleased he’s with us and never disappointed to see his name on the team sheet.