Any HR bods here?

[hans kraay fan club]

once i asked HR how many "paid sick day i had left for the year".....they said i couldn't ask such questions, i demanded to know......they told me......then i used them wisely ;-)

That's great. Well done you*



*that's sarcasm btw, you freeloading tosspot.

 

[Ernest]

The company only has to pay SSP, full sick pay is always at an employers discretion

 

[Gullflyinghigh]

once i asked HR how many "paid sick day i had left for the year".....they said i couldn't ask such questions, i demanded to know......they told me......then i used them wisely ;-)

You hero, what an achievement.

 

[LU7 RED]

Is there an actual Absence policy though? It all sounds a bit woolly by the company tbh.

Thats when companies start getting into trouble.

 

[spring hall convert]

The company only has to pay SSP, full sick pay is always at an employers discretion

It is but big companies will have a policy on it. Legally, that policy must be applied fairly, I think the suggestion is that hasn't happened here.

 

[Springal]

The company only has to pay SSP, full sick pay is always at an employers discretion

They are paying 0, so not even SSP

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

They are paying 0, so not even SSP

SSP only kicks in on the 5th day of sick absence (includes off , rest , leave days within that period)

 

[crabface]

How long as your friend worked at the company for?

 

[Springal]

How long as your friend worked at the company for?

6-7 years

 

[crabface]

6-7 years

In that case he should definitely at least be entitled to SSP, seems like there is some dirty work being done by the company as a doctors certificate should be enough to qualify.

 

[Ernest]

They are paying 0, so not even SSP

You might find managers discretion is quoted somewhere else in the system for sick pay, generally if you qualify it is so many weeks full pay in the year, so many weeks at half pay in the year and it is also generally that company sick pay is at the discretion of the relevant manager. May be worth asking HR to show you where it states what they are telling you or your friend

 

[Simster]

once i asked HR how many "paid sick day i had left for the year".....they said i couldn't ask such questions, i demanded to know......they told me......then i used them wisely ;-)

This makes a lot of sense.

hybrid fancies extra days off
hybrid takes the piss
hybrid gets absolutely no-where, careerwise
hybrid dons tin foil hat and blames the lizards, bullingdon bullies & illuminati for his own shortcomings

 

[maltaseagull]

The employee handbook forms part of the contract - if it says 50% pay then that's what they HAVE to pay. Manager "desecration" leaves the company open to a discrimination claim. HR in this case are wrong.

Sorry but manager desecration is surely gross misconduct and would result in instant dismissal

 

[drew]

The company only has to pay SSP, full sick pay is always at an employers discretion

Unless it is part of your contract!

 

[Weststander]

ACAS (no relation to trade unions, and will give free advice to any employee over the phone) are excellent on such matters. Get your friend to call them, as they will tell him exactly what to do ... their advisors know employment law inside out, I know from personal experience.

 

[Weststander]

Unless it is part of your contract!

Exactly. Most jobs pay full pay for x numbers of days, subject to contractual conditions being met eg ringing the right person by a certain time.

 

[melias shoes]

What's sick pay or holiday pay come to that??

 

[Lord Bracknell]

What's sick pay or holiday pay come to that??

Something that every employee is legally entitled to. If you're self employed, there's no entitlement, but - possibly - there are other advantages that are available to you.


*Stands back to prepare for a classic NSC binfest*

 

[melias shoes]

Something that every employee is legally entitled to. If you're self employed, there's no entitlement, but - possibly - there are other advantages that are available to you.


*Stands back to prepare for a classic NSC binfest*

Yes you're right.

 

[hybrid_x]

That's great. Well done you*
*that's sarcasm btw, you freeloading tosspot.

i made that company a fortune, and was within my own budgets to take days off here and there....which i did....i just also wanted all my sick days too.

i am a big fan of working smart, not working hard, call that freeloading all you like.....but the company benefited more from me than i did from them.