Another US shooting

[daveinprague]

Where the Aryan Nation -- very active in US prisons -- will warmly embrace him, and strive to keep him from harm.

Strive yes, having said that, he will probably blow his own poisoned brains out when capture is inevitable

 

[Diego Napier]

I'm not. I own guns.

When my government told me that they will pass a law that turns me into a criminal overnight and force me to sell MY property because they say I have to I pretty much thought **** you and buried the guns.

But surely you can see that not all gun owners are as sensible and balanced as you

There have been masacres, just not by guns. A mother stabbed 8 children to death, remember that? ban knives? Course not.

And then there's the arson masacres. Ban anything which can start fires?

Shit lets ban anything which can kill someone jsut because it "might" happen one day.

Oh hunting people in the rural areas are happy, more than a few are still using the guns the Government banned.

Whooooosh (it's reassuring to know there's half a planet between us)

Excellent!

Just catching up on this thread and was going to post that little sequence.

Talk about irony passing over the bones of someone's head at 30,000ft!

 

[pastafarian]

Strive yes, having said that, he will probably blow his own poisoned brains out when capture is inevitable

in custody and gave up without a fuss apparently

 

[daveinprague]

Surprised. Hope he enjoys whats left of his life

 

[BadFish]

Which doesn't seem to match at all with any of the vast amount of shooters POV I have come across over the time. Which seems a bit odd.

Maybe you should associate with a wider range of people.

I think it is worth mentioning here that the reason that most of the people I am referring to didn't complain about the gun laws being bought in is that they all still had guns. Australian gun laws don't prohibit people from having guns they just need a good reason for having them. So those people who have farms and need a gun for pest control simply have to apply for a licence, the same as those people that hunt.

 

[Hugo Rune]

in custody and gave up without a fuss apparently

Just seen the pictures of his arrest. Interesting that they choose 'celebrity cop' Hank Schrader to cuff him and manoeuvre him into the Police car.

 

[Mental Lental]

This is what happens when psychos go on the rampage in countries which have gun control......

https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Akihabara_massacre

7 dead and 10 injured.

Now imagine if that guy had an assault rifle.

It would have been 100s.

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

Maybe you should associate with a wider range of people.

I move in a great many circles.

I think it is worth mentioning here that the reason that most of the people I am referring to didn't complain about the gun laws being bought in is that they all still had guns. Australian gun laws don't prohibit people from having guns they just need a good reason for having them. So those people who have farms and need a gun for pest control simply have to apply for a licence, the same as those people that hunt.

And many probably still have illegal guns. All the gun buy-back did was give people for money for guns that had sitting in a shed for 20 years. People who cared little about giving them up.

 

[BadFish]

I move in a great many circles.



And many probably still have illegal guns. All the gun buy-back did was give people for money for guns that had sitting in a shed for 20 years. People who cared little about giving them up.

And stopped massacres

 

[Tyrone Biggums]

And stopped massacres

Nope. Massacres still occur. .

You have and always will be more likely do face physical harm from a car driver or someone intoxicated by alcohol than guns.

The fatality statistics show that.

So why be vocal about something which posses far less threat to your or your families lives? Logic would dictate you'd be more vocal and concerned about the things that your are far, far more likely to be affected by.

 

[pastafarian]

The pro gun lobby live in a different world to normal people.

Worth pointing out though that all my work colleagues think US gun laws are ridiculous. It's more about vested interests than anything else

i expect to get flamed for this but

Yes the pro gun lobby are barking mad sometimes,actually nearly always to be fair
but that is their job,to promote guns.....but yes sometimes you wonder what planet they are on.

a slightly different perspective from my point of view(from a part of the world where the right to own guns is not considered ridiculous)

i have spend a lot of time in Florida(redneck area) and its very much pro gun.I have come across people who say they will fight to the death if the gov tries to take away their constitutional right to have guns(and i have seen them stockpile ammo) these people are not white supremist nutjobs,they are multi race dentists,local councillors,military personnel,restaurant owners,civil servants and airline pilots(yes the last one gave me a WTF as well).

I love guns,i shoot every time i am out there with my own,.I mostly shoot with military personal but i also shoot with some of the people mentioned above,but every single person is a responsible gun owner.When we go out shooting its all about the target and sport aspect.

Whats the answer to the problem? havnt got a clue,but it seems to me to be a compromise,if you have a right to bear arms fine but you only have the right to bear single shot bolt action rifles and self loading revolvers

if you want to unleash a 72 round mag on a AK47 or go tactical with a M16 then knock your self out,but make it only available at a gun club.

 

[pastafarian]

Nope. Massacres still occur. .

You have and always will be more likely do face physical harm from a car driver or someone intoxicated by alcohol than guns.

The fatality statistics show that.

So why be vocal about something which posses far less threat to your or your families lives? Logic would dictate you'd be more vocal and concerned about the things that your are far, far more likely to be affected by.

you are the biggest catholic idiot i think i have ever encountered.......and i saw the pope once

 

[pastafarian]

To be honest, I am going to hang fire on whether this is a true event. It seems the Sandy Hook shootings and the Boston Marathon bombing were false flag events. If you don't believe me, do some research. You will be shocked at how these so-called events were staged and in the case of Sandy Hook, the cynical way that the parents made their children collude with government agencies and the media. There are some dark and subversive forces at play in the US.

you are mental,......yes you have a brain defect you nutter........you had the same genetic problem every time you posted under all your other banned aliases

 

[jonny.rainbow]

A question for the 'neo-liberal do-gooders' on here - if you could go back in time, would you shoot the person who invented the gun to prevent all the bad things that have happened in history due to guns from happening?

A question for the pro-gun lobby on here - when did you last get an erection and have you considered Viagra?

 

[BadFish]

Nope. Massacres still occur. .

Massacres still happen but I am thankful that they don't involve guns any more as one can do far more damage to far more people with a gun than a knife.

You have and always will be more likely do face physical harm from a car driver or someone intoxicated by alcohol than guns.

The fatality statistics show that.

So why be vocal about something which posses far less threat to your or your families lives? Logic would dictate you'd be more vocal and concerned about the things that your are far, far more likely to be affected by.

So you are suggesting that we should abolish restrictions on guns because people get killed by cars and drunk people. This really makes no sense to me, you are comparing apples and oranges.

Although it should be pointed out that you need a licence for a firearm, you need a licence to drive a car, and you need a licence to sell alcohol.

As for being vocal about them, this thread is about firearms so that is what i was talking about.

 

[BadFish]

i expect to get flamed for this but

Yes the pro gun lobby are barking mad sometimes,actually nearly always to be fair
but that is their job,to promote guns.....but yes sometimes you wonder what planet they are on.

a slightly different perspective from my point of view(from a part of the world where the right to own guns is not considered ridiculous)

i have spend a lot of time in Florida(redneck area) and its very much pro gun.I have come across people who say they will fight to the death if the gov tries to take away their constitutional right to have guns(and i have seen them stockpile ammo) these people are not white supremist nutjobs,they are multi race dentists,local councillors,military personnel,restaurant owners,civil servants and airline pilots(yes the last one gave me a WTF as well).

I love guns,i shoot every time i am out there with my own,.I mostly shoot with military personal but i also shoot with some of the people mentioned above,but every single person is a responsible gun owner.When we go out shooting its all about the target and sport aspect.

Whats the answer to the problem? havnt got a clue,but it seems to me to be a compromise,if you have a right to bear arms fine but you only have the right to bear single shot bolt action rifles and self loading revolvers

if you want to unleash a 72 round mag on a AK47 or go tactical with a M16 then knock your self out,but make it only available at a gun club.

Seems sensible to me. Like many things in life laws and restrictions are not bought in for sensible users who are careful with what they do but they are there for the irresponsible idiots who don't do things the right way. People often bang on about rights in this discussion but rarely does anyone mention the responsibilities. Like you say people don't want their guns taken away and this is fair enough but surely they can see the need for some kind of measures and safeguards against the halfwits who have an unsecured arsenal laying about. Surely a licence to show what they will use the gun for and some background checks isn't a step too far for most gun enthusiasts? This way if they want to have have powerful automatic weapons they need to demonstrate a reason for having them?

Far from telling people that they can't have guns surely just a little compromise is needed.

 

[BBassic]

Jon Stewart nails it. As per usual.

 

[vegster]

i expect to get flamed for this but

Yes the pro gun lobby are barking mad sometimes,actually nearly always to be fair
but that is their job,to promote guns.....but yes sometimes you wonder what planet they are on.

a slightly different perspective from my point of view(from a part of the world where the right to own guns is not considered ridiculous)

i have spend a lot of time in Florida(redneck area) and its very much pro gun.I have come across people who say they will fight to the death if the gov tries to take away their constitutional right to have guns(and i have seen them stockpile ammo) these people are not white supremist nutjobs,they are multi race dentists,local councillors,military personnel,restaurant owners,civil servants and airline pilots(yes the last one gave me a WTF as well).

I love guns,i shoot every time i am out there with my own,.I mostly shoot with military personal but i also shoot with some of the people mentioned above,but every single person is a responsible gun owner.When we go out shooting its all about the target and sport aspect.

Whats the answer to the problem? havnt got a clue,but it seems to me to be a compromise,if you have a right to bear arms fine but you only have the right to bear single shot bolt action rifles and self loading revolvers

if you want to unleash a 72 round mag on a AK47 or go tactical with a M16 then knock your self out,but make it only available at a gun club.

So therefore no multiple gun homicides should ever occur ? Yet, somehow they keep happening ?... If only the American Constitution had enshrined the right to carry a spoon at all times instead of guns, Americans would be generally fatter but less liable to be murdered by another spoon wielder who has gone fruit loop or their own spoon.

 

[BBassic]

Isn't the whole "right to bear arms" thing a misinterpretation? I vaguely recall someone saying that it applied, historically, to taking up arms against enemies, foreign and domestic rather than stockpiling an arsenal in your basement.

 

[jimhigham]

At the time of another police shooting earlier this year the statistic was mentioned that there had been more deaths at the hands of police in the United States in March 2015 than there had been in the UK during the entire twentieth century.

For our many faults, I like the relatively peaceable way we live in this country. America fascinates me enormously but I have very little urge to actually go there anymore.