Andy Murray

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Icy Gull

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Tennis is highly queer to watch but much fun to play.

watch a lot of tennis do we??? :lol:
 








Trigger

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Good, he lost.

:)

Murray, who was given a code violation for foul language during the first-set tie-break, seemed to fight an internal battle as the match slipped away.

He muttered, yelled and whacked the net with his racquet, while Tipsarevic produced some authentic serve-and-volley tennis to overpower his young opponent ranked 69 places above him in the world.

Cock.
 
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Meanwhile, our very own Tim Henman cruises through with a 6-2, 6-4 win
 










Hiney

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I can understand Murray not supporting England but to wear the shirt of the opposition is ridiculous, IMO.

Tennis-wise, he is building a bit of a reputation as a choker, which will be difficult to shake off.

He seems to think that becasue of one good year on the tour, he will be OK and won't need to work on his game
 


Barrel of Fun

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Quite right Hiney - on the tennis front.

He seems very much a mummy's boy and throws tantrums if things don't go his way.

When you look at the model pro's that have dominated the game over the last 15 years Becker/Sampras/Agassi/Federer etc. you can tell they put their heart and soul into training and don't expect everything to fall into their laps.

Murray - For God sake. Break away from your parents and get yourself a tough coach to sort yourself out.
 




Kinky Gerbil

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Hiney said:
I can understand Murray not supporting England but to wear the shirt of the opposition is ridiculous, IMO.

Tennis-wise, he is building a bit of a reputation as a choker, which will be difficult to shake off.

He seems to think that becasue of one good year on the tour, he will be OK and won't need to work on his game

I dont think he is old enough to be a choker - Jesus its his first full year - The pressure on him is stupid.

He was 3rd fav to win Wimbledon ffs, Even though thats the Grand Slam he is least likely to win with his game - but dont tell the media that....:glare:
 


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I think its obvious that most British tennis players come from comfortably middle class backgrounds and aren't used to the kind of punishment dished out on the pro circuit, or to rephrase that . . .hard graft . . . its not a world cruise with a few competitively freindly knock abouts at port and a little light practice on deck betwixt Jugs of Pimms.
 


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zefarelly said:
I think its obvious that most British tennis players come from comfortably middle class backgrounds and aren't used to the kind of punishment dished out on the pro circuit, or to rephrase that . . .hard graft . . . its not a world cruise with a few competitively freindly knock abouts at port and a little light practice on deck betwixt Jugs of Pimms.


Middle class shirking a bit of hard work??

Henman coped and became one of the most consistent performers on grass. So I don't think it is a class thing at all.

It is an unfair test, as most of the British players do come from priveleged backgrounds due to a severe lack of funding on the tennis front and the sport not being open to all children/prospects.
 




zefarelly

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sorry I forgot to put the :saarchasm: highlighter on

if this country ever produces a world class player he'll (have to )be so agressive and arrogant no one will like him anyway
 


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zefarelly said:
sorry I forgot to put the :saarchasm: highlighter on

if this country ever produces a world class player he'll (have to )be so agressive and arrogant no one will like him anyway

I would suggest you are right on the middle class front, as they are running the LTA etc.

I read an article about how there are kids that play tennis, quite talented kids from the 'estates' and they play in the street or broken courts, whilst Wimbledon stands empty for the majority of the year.

There was a chap I knew from cubs ( :blush: ) who was amazing at tennis for his age, but his parents couldn't afford to hire a coach and then there was a chap from my school who was crap at tennis but he decided he wanted to be a pro, so his parents bought him top coaches. Never made it!
 


zefarelly

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that all sounds about right, crickets a bit like that as well I think.

it is getting better slowly I think

the opposite end of the scale is getting intelligent literate footballers, Owen Hargreaves for example !
 


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BarrelofFun said:
Middle class shirking a bit of hard work??

Henman coped and became one of the most consistent performers on grass. So I don't think it is a class thing at all.

It is an unfair test, as most of the British players do come from priveleged backgrounds due to a severe lack of funding on the tennis front and the sport not being open to all children/prospects.

Lee - Who was from Worthing - Came from a "normall" up bringing and was doing well untill injury ruined his knee.
 




Icy Gull

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the opposite end of the scale is getting intelligent literate footballers, Owen Hargreaves for example !

In fact most foreign players who speak English seem to be pretty switched on and let's face it Hargreaves is not really English anymore than Rusedski is, about as popular as well :)
 
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Kinky Gerbil

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Icy Gull said:
In fact most foreign players who speak English seem to be pretty switched on and let's face it Hargreaves is not really English anymore than Rusedski is, about as popular as well :)

Not really being a boxing follower did Lewis get the same treatment?
 


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