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[Sussex] Albanian narco gangs.



The Clamp

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You won’t find many Albanian men in the U.K. who have to resort to eating stoats and swans by the riverside.

The Tory’s plan to flood the U.K. with migrants in order to offer a final solution to the problem has ensured they have all made a killing in human trafficking, the sex trade, modern slavery, shop-front restaurants and bars, and drug sales.

Trust me, they don’t need to eat swans 🤣🤣
 




Bakero

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A mate tells me the Albanians are incredibly efficient providing a 24 hour service, where as the Brits are slow, unreliable and always late.

1 text and a bag in your hand within 20 minutes, or so a mate tells me.

I've spent a bit of time in Albania, both in the capital and small mountain villages in the north. It's a beautiful place. When I was there 5 years or so ago I met an Albanian bloke that'd been living in Sheffield for the past 10 or 15 years. He was keen to stress how thankful he was to the British for the hospitality he'd received, especially his boss who he'd come to see as a father figure. He was also keen to dispel any stereotypes I might have had about Albanians.

Obviously, Albanian criminals are operating throughout Europe and the world but not every Albanian immigrant is involved in illicit industries. For every pimp and dealer, there's a bunch of people looking for a better life. Hopefully, as their home nation continues to develop, the need to search for opportunities abroad will decrease.
 


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1 text and a bag in your hand within 20 minutes, or so a mate tells me.

I've spent a bit of time in Albania, both in the capital and small mountain villages in the north. It's a beautiful place. When I was there 5 years or so ago I met an Albanian bloke that'd been living in Sheffield for the past 10 or 15 years. He was keen to stress how thankful he was to the British for the hospitality he'd received, especially his boss who he'd come to see as a father figure. He was also keen to dispel any stereotypes I might have had about Albanians.

Obviously, Albanian criminals are operating throughout Europe and the world but not every Albanian immigrant is involved in illicit industries. For every pimp and dealer, there's a bunch of people looking for a better life. Hopefully, as their home nation continues to develop, the need to search for opportunities abroad will decrease.
So you’re saying they’re not eating swans?

This is all very confusing .
 








Paulie Gualtieri

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Our transactional monitoring system at work throws up various criminal typologies on an hourly basis for investigation. Front and centre is county lines cohorts and money mules.

The destination of bulk payments lead back to city centres typically but activity is on a national level.

You will also typically find that every arsehole end of high streets (the parts dominated by candy stores, European cafes and independent stores)are leased to Albanian or Croatians.

Makes you wonder how business rates and rent are paid A1 for these small independent stores in prime locations even in a recession.

It will keep me busy until retirement I guess!
 




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Well, of course there were. The Albanian Mafia took over heroin trade in all of Europe in the 90s and early 00s. Including in Britain.

They are incredibly powerful. They destroyed the Italian and Russian mafias in New York to take control over the drug trade there. In Italy they won a mafia war against the Italians, who were more or less ousted from the northern and eastern parts of the country. As they have increased their presence in South America, they now also control about 70% of all cocaine coming in to Europe.

It is very hard to solve the issue. Usually they make sure to get influence in banks (to laundry money), the justice system, even cops through bribes and/or violence. The loyalty is enormous, making it difficult to find the leaders of the 30 or so families in charge of the mafia.

It is also difficult to reduce migrants coming in from Albania. Many people flee the country for genuine reasons, namely that the mafia is in control over the entire country. You're either cultivating drugs or smuggling it or you'll live in exceptional poverty. Albanians who dont want to get involved in the mafia pretty much needs to get out of there to have a reasonable life.

It is way too late to stop through reducing immigration or whatever toothless ideas people suggest. If the Albanians can't be there and do business, they'll find someone to do it for them. Only real solution is to get rid of their income, through legalisation of drugs or creating a society (good luck) where people don't feel that they need/want drugs.
That's very interesting. Thanks for the info.

Do you have any links to data? I just read that the proportion of Albanian female to male asylum seekers is hugely disproportionate versus other nationalities. But these are the documented people, not those entering illegally and vanishing into the night.
 




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No wonder the youth of today have negligible activity in the Shatner's Bassoon.
Unless stimulated by triple sod, yellow bentines, or jessop jessop jessop.

 


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True, but I’m sure somebody will be able to photoshop Jeremy Corbyn standing next to an Albanian drug lord.
The facts are irrefoolable.

Oh Jeremy Corbyn.PNG
 


Swansman

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That's very interesting. Thanks for the info.

Do you have any links to data? I just read that the proportion of Albanian female to male asylum seekers is hugely disproportionate versus other nationalities. But these are the documented people, not those entering illegally and vanishing into the night.
Nope, no data. Have read a lot of books on the subject of criminal gangs however since a lot has been written about it over here where we've had severe gang issues for 30 years (first biker gangs, then the Yugo mafia, later clans from the Middle East). Lots of how, why, when and where. We have had wars between different biker gangs, different clans, different ethnic mafias, but no one dares to mess with the Albanians or compete for what the Albanians see as their domains (mainly drugs).

Out of all the heroin (estimated to be around 100 tons) brought into Europe, somewhere around 80% go through the Balkan countries, with Albanians being in charge of most of the smuggling. Given that they also run the whole chain when smuggling to the US and South America, it is easy to see power they have. The global heroin market is estimated to be worth around £50bn a year. And thats not including their ancient strong position on the cannabis market or their recent ventures into amphetamines and cocaine.

Obviously their business is a lot easier if there's plenty of Albanians living where they have their market... though the increase in the last year might be more about the war in Ukraine pushing costs of living to a point where in already quite poor Albania it turns into a matter of survival, mainly affecting Albanian women and children who are rarely involved (other than a bit of cannabis cultivation) in drug operations.
 






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Nope, no data. Have read a lot of books on the subject of criminal gangs however since a lot has been written about it over here where we've had severe gang issues for 30 years (first biker gangs, then the Yugo mafia, later clans from the Middle East). Lots of how, why, when and where. We have had wars between different biker gangs, different clans, different ethnic mafias, but no one dares to mess with the Albanians or compete for what the Albanians see as their domains (mainly drugs).

Out of all the heroin (estimated to be around 100 tons) brought into Europe, somewhere around 80% go through the Balkan countries, with Albanians being in charge of most of the smuggling. Given that they also run the whole chain when smuggling to the US and South America, it is easy to see power they have. The global heroin market is estimated to be worth around £50bn a year. And thats not including their ancient strong position on the cannabis market or their recent ventures into amphetamines and cocaine.

Obviously their business is a lot easier if there's plenty of Albanians living where they have their market... though the increase in the last year might be more about the war in Ukraine pushing costs of living to a point where in already quite poor Albania it turns into a matter of survival, mainly affecting Albanian women and children who are rarely involved (other than a bit of cannabis cultivation) in drug operations.
Cheers....I have no reason to doubt you, despite the lack of bibliography. One has of course one's own eyes. I have seen hundred of them on Westminster bridge doing the ball under the cup scam. Highly organized with spotters, but it is far too relaxed. Clearly the police have been directed to let them get on with it. With a longstanding series of tory governments I find this most peculiar.... ???
 


Timbo

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I went to Albania last year, lovely friendly country. Interesting talking to my American hotel owner who claims the place is virtually crime free. There’s not a huge amount of money there and the punishments are severe, all the hardcore criminals are over here where there’s more money to be made and the punishments are non existent.
 




jcdenton08

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Because it was ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE to buy drugs in Brighton in the 70s before they arrived :lolol:

nah. Doesn’t work. Even the staunchest of left and the libbest of libs recognise there are certain issues relating to certain cultures within British society which are problematic. Grooming/exploitation gangs in certain Asian communities, gang/drug problems in Albanian communities.

It’s simply fact, nobody here is blaming Johnny Foreigner for all our ills in life,.

The problem is when people shut down when valid, factual observations get made.

Frankly, you’ve had a shocker fella.
 


herecomesaregular

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Comprehensive Guardian article on how Albanians took control of the UK cocaine market.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/13/kings-of-cocaine-albanian-mafia-uk-drugs-crime
A depressing read. You'll never get rid of supply, it's a shame that those who demand cocaine for selfish recreational use have no soul either as they couldn't care less re the impact of their actions. The effect on society is devastating and I think some elements of legalisation (of some drugs) should be given more consideration.
 










Guinness Boy

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nah. Doesn’t work. Even the staunchest of left and the libbest of libs recognise there are certain issues relating to certain cultures within British society which are problematic. Grooming/exploitation gangs in certain Asian communities, gang/drug problems in Albanian communities.

It’s simply fact, nobody here is blaming Johnny Foreigner for all our ills in life,.

The problem is when people shut down when valid, factual observations get made.

Frankly, you’ve had a shocker fella.
To which I’ll add far right white terrorism and the holding to ransom of the whole United Kingdom by Northern Irish Protestants, resulting in no control in Belfast and the reappearance of terrorism on both sides there.

Do you think Albanians eat Swans?

Do you think drugs are solely a black and immigrant problem?
 


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