[News] Air India flight AI171 Ahmedabad -> London Gatwick crashed

[hans kraay fan club]

This seems very soon, if the causes of the tragedy are as yet certain?

 

[TomandJerry]

Over 200 dead. Rest in peace.

Now reported all 242 on board have died.

 

[bhafc99]

This seems very soon, if the causes of the tragedy are as yet certain?

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TBH, once they’ve checked it’s not something on the runway (like the Paris Concorde crash was), there’s no real reason not to resume flights. It may seem a bit cold-hearted, but the knock-on effects of a closed airport are huge, so…

 

[hans kraay fan club]

TBH, once they’ve checked it’s not something on the runway (like the Paris Concorde crash was), there’s no real reason not to resume flights. It may seem a bit cold-hearted, but the knock-on effects of a closed airport are huge, so…

One suggestion was contaminated fuel, so that's at least one other possibility that wouldn't be confined to a fault with the aircraft itself.

 

[Easy 10]

How devastating. With 200+ lives lost, the cause may not matter—though I hope it wasn’t another Boeing defect.

OF COURSE the cause matters. Investigators will be picking over this for months if not years to ascertain the cause of this disaster.

 

[Badger]

This seems very soon, if the causes of the tragedy are as yet certain?

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Yeah. I don't think I'd be willing to board a flight there today.

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

Wouldn't that be the most basic of errors? Seems suspicious to me.

RiP to those on the plane and on the ground.

Pointless speculating as to the cause, it's far too early to tell. All will become clear in time.

 

[Doug-ees-evil]

OF COURSE the cause matters. Investigators will be picking over this for months if not years to ascertain the cause of this disaster.

Indeed. With over +1100 Dreamliners in operation around world, often presented as the flagship aircraft of a carrier's fleet – the most thorough and speedy outcome as to the exact cause is vital for passenger safety and commercial/public confidence. Imagine sitting on a 787 right now at Heathrow about to take off somewhere exotic.

On top of the terrible human tragedy, this will shake the industry too. This is a new, state-of-the-art plane. For it to go so catastrophically wrong, seconds after take-off (in perfect flight conditions) is a huge, huge issue.

 

[Flounce]

Dreamliners had a few Lithium battery issues just after they were introduced, which I believe meant they were grounded worldwide. Unlikely to be the same problem now though. Over a decade ago. This is their first ever crash.

 

[Easy 10]

Indeed. With over +1100 Dreamliners in operation around world, often presented as the flagship aircraft of a carrier's fleet – the most thorough and speedy outcome as to the exact cause is vital for passenger safety and commercial/public confidence. Imagine sitting on a 787 right now at Heathrow about to take off somewhere exotic.

On top of the terrible human tragedy, this will shake the industry too. This is a new, state-of-the-art plane. For it to go so catastrophically wrong, seconds after take-off (in perfect flight conditions) is a huge, huge issue.

Yeah. I'll be on one on Sunday
(Assuming they don't ground the entire fleet)

 

[Doug-ees-evil]

Yeah. I'll be on one on Sunday
(Assuming they don't ground the entire fleet)

Ah. Sorry didn't mean to freak out any travellers on here.
I wouldn't be surprised if they did immediately ground them all. There's probably 50 to go out of UK airports alone today.

The other way of looking at it – there is probably no better time to fly.. with ultra levels of checks and triple checks now.

 

[peterward]

Indeed. With over +1100 Dreamliners in operation around world, often presented as the flagship aircraft of a carrier's fleet – the most thorough and speedy outcome as to the exact cause is vital for passenger safety and commercial/public confidence. Imagine sitting on a 787 right now at Heathrow about to take off somewhere exotic.

On top of the terrible human tragedy, this will shake the industry too. This is a new, state-of-the-art plane. For it to go so catastrophically wrong, seconds after take-off (in perfect flight conditions) is a huge, huge issue.

Wouldn't feel in the least bit concerned if I was sitting on a Virgin or BA dreamliner right now.

We'll see what the investigation concludes in time.

Some form of human error would be my hunch over technical failure from the disparate bits of info at this stage.

 

[Doug-ees-evil]

Wouldn't feel in the least bit concerned if I was sitting on a Virgin or BA dreamliner right now.

We'll see what the investigation concludes in time.

Some form of human error would be my hunch over technical failure from the disparate bits of info at this stage.

Yes agree. Been on the Virgin one a couple of times with its lovely RR engines. Beautiful plane in fairness.
Air India has (had) a decent safety record though apparently. As you say, no point in speculating any more.

 

[Deadly Danson]

A video of the full take off - just never gained altitude. Appears there is one survivor who was seated in 11A.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Fair play to Tata, but this seems an unusual instant reaction, committing £26m+ before any investigation into causes has started.

 

[peterward]

This is a hugely significant bit of info if true. Aircraft did backtrack and used full length of runway.

 

[Doug-ees-evil]

A video of the full take off - just never gained altitude. Appears there is one survivor who was seated in 11A.

Gut-wrenching watching that.

 

[jackalbion]

A video of the full take off - just never gained altitude. Appears there is one survivor who was seated in 11A.

Looks like it over ran the runway just before lift off? Does sound like it could have been over weight?

 

[Chicken Run]

Yeah. I'll be on one on Sunday
(Assuming they don't ground the entire fleet)

If it’s Boeing I ain’t going

 

[Gazwag]

53 British Nationals

They are reporting a British passenger survived