brightonbluenose
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.........65% of white working class boys aged 14 have a reading age of 7 years old - a truly SHOCKING statistic!!
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dougdeep
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Do you have the figures for the ethnic minorities?
The Ringleader
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and im 15 with a reading age of an adult and the spelling age of a 9 year old 
Spun Cuppa
Thanks Greens :(
Wouldn't it be because 7 years olds and upwards don't actually read anything, prefering to play on a Playstation and text their friends using txtspeak!?
coventrygull
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The dumbing down of our society has been going on a lot longer than 12 years. The Conservatives are as much to blame as Labour but hey ho guess who is coming into power next election. Dodgy Dave
coventrygull
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and watch trash TV
This is Labours fault how? Its all down to one simple fact.
THE KIDS ARE f***ing SPACKERS!
We get taught at college basic concepts in Sociology (for example) like, if your good you get a reward. This kind of basic concept that you shouldn't need to be taught at GCSE or A-Level age is replicated across education since most of the f***ing classes are full of thugs, emo's or drunk junkies. Don't blame the government for the complete waste of human lives my generation has provided! Saying this is the fault of the government is a total cop out. Ever been to a class? The teachers go through hell and back because most people don't give a f*** what they're saying. Name in one way this is the teachers, governments or anyone elses fault bar the twats who choose not to learn?
THE KIDS ARE f***ing SPACKERS!
We get taught at college basic concepts in Sociology (for example) like, if your good you get a reward. This kind of basic concept that you shouldn't need to be taught at GCSE or A-Level age is replicated across education since most of the f***ing classes are full of thugs, emo's or drunk junkies. Don't blame the government for the complete waste of human lives my generation has provided! Saying this is the fault of the government is a total cop out. Ever been to a class? The teachers go through hell and back because most people don't give a f*** what they're saying. Name in one way this is the teachers, governments or anyone elses fault bar the twats who choose not to learn?
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Spun Cuppa
Thanks Greens :(
The figures can be analysed along class lines, as recently on the news we had the annual A-level and GCSE results stories, with Joe/Joanna Blogs getting 4 A's or 10 A* grades and the crush for students to get into the universities due to lack of places...
NMH
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How do they work out what the reading age of a 7year-old is?
Dodgy stat, but what they are saying is that loads of chav types are bringing down their education by thinking (and persuading their peers to think) that gaining education and trying to succeed in learning, is weak and 'uncool'.
Dodgy stat, but what they are saying is that loads of chav types are bringing down their education by thinking (and persuading their peers to think) that gaining education and trying to succeed in learning, is weak and 'uncool'.
pasty
A different kind of pasty
and im 15 with a reading age of an adult and the spelling age of a 9 year old
I don't know if you are taking the piss or not, and I don't mean this nastily, but I understand that perfectly.
When my step-daughter was that age, she was exactly the same. At a parents evening at her school, we saw her English teacher and told her that her spelling, grammer and handwriting were all dreadfull. The teachers response? "Well she has a wonderful grasp of Shakepeare now though, and we don't really worry too much about spelling and grammer nowadays"
Well oh bloody marvellous. Can't write neatly, and can't spell, but understands Shakespeare.
I put the blame entirely down to education authorities allowing school work to be researched on the internet and handed in as a word document. A quick google, copy, paste and spell-check, and hey-presto, it's all done.
At least years ago, when we used to copy stuff faithfully out of an encyclopedia, the process of copying it down and writing it out made some of it go into our brains.
*and relax*
Goldstone Rapper
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There is a document called Confident, capable and creative: Supporting boy's achievements.
I'd be interested in what you think about what it says about enabling boys to achieve.
From my experience of working in a nursery, it makes a huge difference when there are people who have direct experience of having been a boy and affirm boys' natural drives and interests. The fact that male nursery practitioners and primary school teachers are in a minority may mean that boys are less well served by educational settings than girls. Running around a lot, making guns out of Lego and boisterous superhero play are often considered inappropriate whereas dressing up as a princess, making food in the home corner and doing beading is thought of much more favourably.
I'd be interested in what you think about what it says about enabling boys to achieve.
From my experience of working in a nursery, it makes a huge difference when there are people who have direct experience of having been a boy and affirm boys' natural drives and interests. The fact that male nursery practitioners and primary school teachers are in a minority may mean that boys are less well served by educational settings than girls. Running around a lot, making guns out of Lego and boisterous superhero play are often considered inappropriate whereas dressing up as a princess, making food in the home corner and doing beading is thought of much more favourably.
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beorhthelm
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i finding shocking you believe that statistic outright without additional information. for example, what defines "white working class", what are the numbers for girls, what was the number in 1996, what is the number for "white middle class" boys... without any context this is meaningless and frankly on first impression probably bollocks.
Don Quixote
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It isn't the school's fault. If people don't read at home then they will not be able to read very well. Schools can't make children read challenging books can they?
1234andcounting
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- Mar 31, 2008
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A significant proportion of them post on this site.
It's very easy to blame others but at some point do people have to take responsibility for their own reading ability. Reading is one of the easiest and cheapest pastimes to engage in.
beorhthelm
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- Jul 21, 2003
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crap. thats the whole point of schooling and the reason its compulsary is to ensure the means and method of the parents dont hold children back. of course, if parents dont encourage and support learning then they wont excel, but the schools still should be providing minimum standards or we are wasting time and money.
Gully
Monkey in a seagull suit.
I would agree totally with your comments, reading can be an immense pleasure that also broadens and enriches the mind.
The real problem here is probably hidden behind the statistics, how many of those who cannot read have parents who are illiterate or take absolutely no interest in their child's education? I don't think the blame can be laid just at the education system, it goes far deeper than that.
Don Quixote
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How can you force someone to read an "adult" book like Crime and Punishment? Some people need to take responsibility for themselves and stop blaming schools.
Defo. Parent and schooling should go in tandem....I cannot help but think that a number of parents just see school as a way of getting the kids off their hands for a few hours.