[Travel] A259 Travel Chaos

[Madafwo]

I'd love a tram system connecting Newhaven to somewhere West of Brighton to service those who are just that bit too far away from a train station and don't trust the buses as they are massively unreliable but I know it will never happen.

I'll just have to use the bike more often than I have been recently.

 

[Fignon's Ponytail]

Absolutely terrible this morning. The A259 was at standstill both ways in Peacehaven, when I walked my daughter to school. You can't get in and you can't get out. Feel sorry for people trying to get to work, and I also feel sorry for anyone that needs the emergency services.

The sooner they build a bypass at the back of Peacehaven to join the A26 the better, completion date 2050.

My son caught his usual bus at 6.50am to get to school at BACA, and was still late! I usually cycle from Saltdean to work in Peacehaven as its only a couple of miles, and it takes me less than 10 mins. Had to take the car today and it took me over 40 mins for the same journey.
No idea why the traffic was so bad going East when the major problem was in Rottingdean for the West bound traffic? There was an ambulance in a bus stop opposite the Toby putting a bus passenger / patient on board their rig on a trolley...but the traffic was going way beyond that through Peacehaven. Crazy morning.

I will be back on two wheels tomorrow come rain or shine.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

My son caught his usual bus at 6.50am to get to school at BACA, and was still late! I usually cycle from Saltdean to work in Peacehaven as its only a couple of miles, and it takes me less than 10 mins. Had to take the car today and it took me over 40 mins for the same journey.
No idea why the traffic was so bad going East when the major problem was in Rottingdean for the West bound traffic? There was an ambulance in a bus stop opposite the Toby putting a bus passenger / patient on board their rig on a trolley...but the traffic was going way beyond that through Peacehaven. Crazy morning.

I will be back on two wheels tomorrow come rain or shine.

Crazy indeed. Good for you on using the bike by the way, I understand sometimes it's not possible to use the bike all the time, but unlucky for you the car picked the worst day of all.

I don't need the car in the mornings, that puts me in the position to walk my daughter to school. There is enough traffic as it is on a normal day, without School mums and dads creating extra traffic.

 

[LamieRobertson]

Norfolk Bridge traffic lights are for two weeks starting last Monday

Think I’ll shift my Brighton Rd Lancing work to next week on that basis

 

[Thunder Bolt]

My son caught his usual bus at 6.50am to get to school at BACA, and was still late! I usually cycle from Saltdean to work in Peacehaven as its only a couple of miles, and it takes me less than 10 mins. Had to take the car today and it took me over 40 mins for the same journey.
No idea why the traffic was so bad going East when the major problem was in Rottingdean for the West bound traffic? There was an ambulance in a bus stop opposite the Toby putting a bus passenger / patient on board their rig on a trolley...but the traffic was going way beyond that through Peacehaven. Crazy morning.

I will be back on two wheels tomorrow come rain or shine.

The traffic going east is trying to get to Newhaven to use the A27, to get westwards again. The C7 is also snarled up

 

[Stat Brother]

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[P.S]

Think I’ll shift my Brighton Rd Lancing work to next week on that basis

I'd wait until the week after next , it's there for this and next week

 

[Pretty pink fairy]

Temporary traffic lights at Shoreham and stop go boards at Rottingdean- looks bad out there tonight

freedom of movement will put a stop to that
regards
DF

 

[Stoichkov]

I'd only just seen that it was "emergency" works, so I'll let them off. I'll be heading to work via Newhaven and the A27 for the next couple of days then, and any time the A27 is the preferred option something has gone very wrong.

Southern Water now claim that they had a pre agreed permit with BHCC to do these works which, if correct, begs the question why were no signs up allowing people to make other plans?

When you add the accumulative 'lateness' for work (£) and school (education innit) - surely utilities like Southern water should have no choice but to do these works over several shifts and work through the night?

 

[Notters]

Front page today:-

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Thanks for the personal touch! We are the largest city in Europe without a mass transit system.

 

[Chicken Run]

Town is gridlocked tonight, everyone heading out on Lewis road

 

[Live by the sea]

Always dread having to drive on the seafront road anywhere past Kemp Town as I always seem to end up in heavy traffic or jams. Fortunately I rarely have to but living east of Kemp town must be a nightmare . Why do all white van drivers seem to live in peacehaven or woodingdean ! at rush hour in the evening it’s Like a line of white vans along that stretch.

 

[BN41Albion]

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We're so far behind in this country when it comes to schemes such as this. It's infuriating. Imagine a central brighton without cars and a tram system - it would be brilliant! But never going to happen - or anything near it - in my lifetime unfortunately.

 

[Stat Brother]

We're so far behind in this country when it comes to schemes such as this. It's infuriating. Imagine a central brighton without cars and a tram system - it would be brilliant! But never going to happen - or anything near it - in my lifetime unfortunately.

It's just the simplicity of it.

Imagine if you could drive into Brighton but not through it.
Sure the coast makes it less straight forward, but not insurmountable.

It took Ghent 6 years to reach their 18 year transportation goal, while we're still moaning about taking 2 hours to drive across town.

We were doing that 6 years ago and will still be doing that in 18 years time.

 

[blue-shifted]

https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/18146679.bus-prices-will-rise-brighton-increased-congestion/

And now bus prices are going up .... due to congestion ...... leading to more people taking cars ...... therefore even more congestion

Head, firmly in hands

 

[Deleted member 22389]

Think it's going to be the same today.

 

[BN9 BHA]

. Why do all white van drivers seem to live in peacehaven or woodingdean ! at rush hour in the evening it’s Like a line of white vans along that stretch.

Probably because they want to live in a house that they have bought for the same price as a one bed flat in Brighton & Hove.
The house has parking for their white van, and after a hard days graft they can pull up on their drive, go indoors and relax.

Hope this answers your question.

 

[Fignon's Ponytail]

Think it's going to be the same today.

I didn't manage to ride the bike today as I had to do a round loop of Rottingdean - Falmer - Kingston - Newhaven - Peacehaven because my son needed to be at cricket training by 8am at BACA, & he didn't trust the buses after yesterday.
The traffic was fine on the roads everywhere. Less than a 5 min holdup in Rottingdean and that was it.

 

[Brovion]

https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/18146679.bus-prices-will-rise-brighton-increased-congestion/

And now bus prices are going up .... due to congestion ...... leading to more people taking cars ...... therefore even more congestion

Head, firmly in hands

“For example, it takes a route seven bus 31 per cent longer to get from Hove to Brighton Marina than it did ten years ago." 31% in ten years! Worth pointing out that a lot of that increase is caused by the removal of road and parking space and its replacement with bus and cycle lanes. Has the penny finally dropped that simply providing bus and cycle lanes does NOT encourage people to use them? I've no doubt that they result in an increase in bus and cycle useage - but not nearly enough and the remaining road users more than swamp the remaining road space. Nor do higher parking or fuel prices act as a deterrent as driving is relatively price inelastic

For a town like Brighton there is no simple solution - but building P 'n' R sites on the outskirts (like Stat Brother's Utrecht) and banning all cars from the city centre would be a good place to start. And making public transport affordable.

 

[LamieRobertson]

Probably because they want to live in a house that they have bought for the same price as a one bed flat in Brighton & Hove.
The house has parking for their white van, and after a hard days graft they can pull up on their drive, go indoors and relax.

Hope this answers your question.