Whist the DD option helps the ST become affordable the club must also know with this method it’s not dealing with the most wealthy people in Sussex. Poor show not to refund supporters who are financial impacted during covid especially as your paying for something your not getting. Personally I would refund all those who requested it as it really is a drop in the ocean to the club but can make a huge difference to the less wealthy of supporters.
You have conflated a lot of issues there. You pain a picture of supporters paying 'twice' to fund the ego trip of a slick businessman splashing around cash on luxury playesr and pleading poverty. I will raise one eyebrow
You and I paid upfront for a service we haven't received. We will get a refund if we want it. The fact that you couldn't really afford to buy the service in the first place (your implication) is sad, but that's really your call, isn't it? The fact you now have the opportunity to pay to watch games we didn't previously have the option of watching, without jeopardizing your season ticket refund, is good, surely? The sad fact is you can't afford it so you will miss out. But in what way are you 'paying twice'?
The rest of your post is about other things.
As for denigrating peope for their personal views, I get told time after time that people can express any view they like on NSC. If it happens to be my view that some people are conflating a range of different things into a confection of inappropriate vituperation, and if I am annoyed enough about it (especially the attacks on our club) to say so, I will say so.
And if I express strong views about people flouncing off to county league, tarring our owner with the mendacious brush of 'moneyman', there is no reason for you to infer that I am sneering at your cashflow problems. I'm not and I am sorry to hear it. I don't favour conflation since the connections implied are often false.
We have an issue about ST refunds (this needs to speed up - absolutely, because Covid has changed people's finances - no other reason).
We have an issue about the price of the new televised games (I have sympathy for those who can't afford it, albeit is an extra with the price set by the EPL, and it is not a substitute for what they paid for, or profiteering by the club as some imply, but I have no sympathy for those who refuse to pay on 'principle'.)
We have an issue about the top 6 and their proposed land grab (which has nothing to do with the above, apparently - El Pres said on the radio an hour ago that this has been in planning for 3 years and any reference to Covid were there any would be a smokescreen).
I said yesterday that I really don't want to offend anyone in genuine hardship for whom the £15 may seem like a final straw. I understand that the messages about payments and reimbursement can be confusing. If you are worrying about covid (as I am), your job (thankfully not in my case), the future of your family (definitely) then all sorts of stuff can be a blow and unsettling. I get that and I am sorry about it.
But I draw the line at people sticking the boot into our club because they are on their 'final straw'. The attacks on Barber are absurd. He is Bloom's man so until Bloom sacks Barber (perhaps he may - who knows?) I am assuming he is expressing the bosses views. That means people are attacking Bloom (even if they don't think they are - in the case of some people I see little or no evidence of any thinking, but as I said, I appreciate that people have wider issues and may be feeling delicate and fragile). Final comment on this - if anyone is upset at the costs agreed by the EPL for additional access to watch the team you love, please don't attack the club.
Such a strange comment
I'm sure there are masses of people who can't afford the £15, but my guess is most won't have a BHA season ticket (which is, in my view, a luxury item - it certainly is to me), and most won't be tapping away on their expensive computer or phone on the internet on NSC during daytime - they'll be at work, or looking for work. Rather a lot of jonny come lately keyboard faux socialists onine here right now, venting about a load of hypotheticals that probably don't affect themselves, not least the moneyman trope, and digging out people like me who still back the club to make the best choices even when the options are not great. That's my fundamental position - I trust in Tony Bloom. You are most welcome to move your trust elsewhere if it makes you feel better .
You have conflated a lot of issues there. You pain a picture of supporters paying 'twice' to fund the ego trip of a slick businessman splashing around cash on luxury playesr and pleading poverty. I will raise one eyebrow
You and I paid upfront for a service we haven't received. We will get a refund if we want it. The fact that you couldn't really afford to buy the service in the first place (your implication) is sad, but that's really your call, isn't it? The fact you now have the opportunity to pay to watch games we didn't previously have the option of watching, without jeopardizing your season ticket refund, is good, surely? The sad fact is you can't afford it so you will miss out. But in what way are you 'paying twice'?
The rest of your post is about other things.
As for denigrating peope for their personal views, I get told time after time that people can express any view they like on NSC. If it happens to be my view that some people are conflating a range of different things into a confection of inappropriate vituperation, and if I am annoyed enough about it (especially the attacks on our club) to say so, I will say so.
And if I express strong views about people flouncing off to county league, tarring our owner with the mendacious brush of 'moneyman', there is no reason for you to infer that I am sneering at your cashflow problems. I'm not and I am sorry to hear it. I don't favour conflation since the connections implied are often false.
We have an issue about ST refunds (this needs to speed up - absolutely, because Covid has changed people's finances - no other reason).
We have an issue about the price of the new televised games (I have sympathy for those who can't afford it, albeit is an extra with the price set by the EPL, and it is not a substitute for what they paid for, or profiteering by the club as some imply, but I have no sympathy for those who refuse to pay on 'principle'.)
We have an issue about the top 6 and their proposed land grab (which has nothing to do with the above, apparently - El Pres said on the radio an hour ago that this has been in planning for 3 years and any reference to Covid were there any would be a smokescreen).
I said yesterday that I really don't want to offend anyone in genuine hardship for whom the £15 may seem like a final straw. I understand that the messages about payments and reimbursement can be confusing. If you are worrying about covid (as I am), your job (thankfully not in my case), the future of your family (definitely) then all sorts of stuff can be a blow and unsettling. I get that and I am sorry about it.
But I draw the line at people sticking the boot into our club because they are on their 'final straw'. The attacks on Barber are absurd. He is Bloom's man so until Bloom sacks Barber (perhaps he may - who knows?) I am assuming he is expressing the bosses views. That means people are attacking Bloom (even if they don't think they are - in the case of some people I see little or no evidence of any thinking, but as I said, I appreciate that people have wider issues and may be feeling delicate and fragile). Final comment on this - if anyone is upset at the costs agreed by the EPL for additional access to watch the team you love, please don't attack the club.
I’m still trying to work out what BHA fans want or expect for free
