[Football] Hillsborough - more police escape justice

rippleman · May 26, 2021

Two cops and a solicitor standing trial for perverting the course of justice acquitted by the judge before the jury was called into Court.

The Establishment protecting the Establishment....again.

I fear the families will never get justice for their relatives. And again, police corruption goes unpunished.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-57172900

zefarelly · May 26, 2021

Hardly a shock is it. Sadly.

GT49er · May 26, 2021

zefarelly said:
Hardly a shock is it. Sadly.

Agreed, no shock. Still a disgrace though.

wellquickwoody · May 26, 2021

Many people made mistakes that awful day. Very few are actually pointed at.

mr sheen · May 26, 2021

The fact that there is no requirement to tell the truth to a public inquiry bodes well for next years covid19 one....

Harry Wilson's tackle · May 26, 2021

Hillsborough again

The lawyer defending the three senior officers who made the police at the scene change their statements has just described (on radio 5) the last 30 odd years of those seeking justice as 'making a mountain out of a mole hill', and he blamed the suppporters for the deaths. Breathtaking.

Seasidesage · May 26, 2021

Justice system designed to protect the rich, the establishment and their tools in this case the Police force...

Harry Wilson's tackle · May 26, 2021

Apologies for starting the other thread. I didn't see this one.

CPS at fault here for bringing a case they knew they would lose in order to bow to the court of public opinion that a case had to be brought. CPS 'virtue signaling'.

The defence lawyer, though. What a piece of work. I hope he gets sued for stating the deaths were due to the supporters not the police. The court rules against that some years ago.

Hugo Rune · May 26, 2021

Harry Wilson's tackle said:
Apologies for starting the other thread. I didn't see this one.

CPS at fault here for bringing a case they knew they would lose in order to bow to the court of public opinion that a case had to be brought. CPS 'virtue signaling'.

The defence lawyer, though. What a piece of work. I hope he gets sued for stating the deaths were due to the supporters not the police. The court rules against that some years ago.

Heard him on the radio. Disgusting ****er. His clients doctored over 100 Police statements to delete criticism of the South Yorkshire Police force, statements sent to the public inquiry.

They got off on a horrific technicality, no need to put the boot into fans.

zefarelly · May 26, 2021

mr sheen said:
The fact that there is no requirement to tell the truth to a public inquiry bodes well for next years covid19 one....

I wouldn't envisage that as anything other than a bunch of civil servants keeping themselves busy for a year to cream the public purse.

Uter · May 26, 2021

mr sheen said:
The fact that there is no requirement to tell the truth to a public inquiry bodes well for next years covid19 one....

Isn't the underlying problem that it was not, in a legal sense, a public inquiry? That seems to be gist of a BBC article.

Official Old Man · May 26, 2021

OMG
I heard something on the radio this morning about finally bringing closure to this entire case and presumed it meant these guys were found guilty.
I go through life doing my best for myself, my kids, my family, my parents and my close friends. I don't break the law, park illegally, steal from others or do anything wrong.
But I do wonder why not sometimes. Life isn't fair.

stingray · May 26, 2021

disgusting . end of

beorhthelm · May 26, 2021

mr sheen said:
The fact that there is no requirement to tell the truth to a public inquiry bodes well for next years covid19 one....

it seems the Taylor report wasnt a formal public inquiry, hence the technicality that blocks this prosecution. really this case was pointless all along, pursued by CPS to show they'd done eveything.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57257199

Acker79 · May 26, 2021

The Secret Barrister has a thorough breakdown explaining the decision.

https://thesecretbarrister.com/2021/05/26/the-hillsborough-judgment-what-just-happened/

The crux of it (as others have noted) is that the taylor inquiry wasn't, in the eyes of the law, public justice, so it isn't perverting the course of justice. It also notes that the original unedited statements are still available, should they be needed, as well as more nuance and detail.

Thunder Bolt · Jan 31, 2023

Finally, after almost 34 years, the police admitting the "policing got it badly wrong".

Police forces have apologised for "profound failings" which have "continued to blight" relatives of victims of the Hillsborough disaster.

Hillsborough disaster: Families profoundly failed, say police

Police forces promise "cultural change" as they respond to a critical report into the 1989 disaster.

www.bbc.co.uk

LennyTee · Jan 31, 2023

Now we just need Liverpool fans to accept that their behaviour outside the ground contributed to the disaster.
The shithousing after it happened with the SYP making crap up and the media reporting it as fact is already accepted.
Unfortunately the South Yorkshire Police have done bugger all to change their match day policing.
If you are an away fan, you are fair game.

Deleted member 37369 · Jan 31, 2023

LennyTee said:
Now we just need Liverpool fans to accept that their behaviour outside the ground contributed to the disaster.
The shithousing after it happened with the SYP making crap up and the media reporting it as fact is already accepted.
Unfortunately the South Yorkshire Police have done bugger all to change their match day policing.
If you are an away fan, you are fair game.

Five Hillsborough myths dispelled by inquests jury

The alleged behaviour of fans lay at the heart of the myths rejected by the Hillsborough inquests. How were they perpetuated?

www.bbc.co.uk

LennyTee · Jan 31, 2023

heavysoul said:
Five Hillsborough myths dispelled by inquests jury

Five Hillsborough myths dispelled by inquests jury

The alleged behaviour of fans lay at the heart of the myths rejected by the Hillsborough inquests. How were they perpetuated?

www.bbc.co.uk

The behaviour of Liverpool fans was no different to any away fans going in thousands to an away game. Unfortunately the behaviour we all get away with every week, up and down the country caught up with them. The result was innocent people lost their lives.
Only a matter of time until it happens again.
To say Liverpool fans are entirely blameless (and I see in that article it does mention that there were ticket less fans) is just blind.
South Yorkshire Police (most police forces it seems) are absolute scum but dismissing other contributing factors helps no one.

Deleted member 37369 · Jan 31, 2023

LennyTee said:
The behaviour of Liverpool fans was no different to any away fans going in thousands to an away game. Unfortunately the behaviour we all get away with every week, up and down the country caught up with them. The result was innocent people lost their lives.
Only a matter of time until it happens again.
To say Liverpool fans are entirely blameless (and I see in that article it does mention that there were ticket less fans) is just blind.
South Yorkshire Police (most police forces it seems) are absolute scum but dismissing other contributing factors helps no one.

This theory ... "Now we just need Liverpool fans to accept that their behaviour outside the ground contributed to the disaster" has been dispelled many times and making this suggestion again is inflammatory and just mischief making!

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