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[Politics] Should Lewis Hamilton be knighted?
- Thread starter Icy Gull
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Bollocks, bollocks, bollocks.
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lawros left foot
Glory hunting since 1969
I’m a bit conflicted on this one.
Really dislike the whole honours system thing. So many people who have been gifted these honours that are no more than time serving lickspittles, and then there’s the odd one,who I think, yeah, they deserve an honour to show the country’s affection/ admiration/ pride in their achievements.
I have always had a lot more respect for the likes of Bowie, Paul Weller, and Stephen Hawkins, who all refused honours than the nominees in politics, the armed forces, and the civil service, who get an honour for achieving a rank or just time served.
Getting back to Lewis Hamilton , of course he deserves a knighthood, but, like all sportsmen , after he retires.
Really dislike the whole honours system thing. So many people who have been gifted these honours that are no more than time serving lickspittles, and then there’s the odd one,who I think, yeah, they deserve an honour to show the country’s affection/ admiration/ pride in their achievements.
I have always had a lot more respect for the likes of Bowie, Paul Weller, and Stephen Hawkins, who all refused honours than the nominees in politics, the armed forces, and the civil service, who get an honour for achieving a rank or just time served.
Getting back to Lewis Hamilton , of course he deserves a knighthood, but, like all sportsmen , after he retires.
Like Andy Murray, you mean?
worthingseagull123
Well-known member
- May 5, 2012
- 2,580
No.
Tax exile.
Tax exile.
drew
Drew
Yet he is in the top 5000 of uk tax payers!
drew
Drew
He pays tax in the UK (as others have also said, he's in the top 5000 of UK tax payers) however he as he lives in Monaco he doesn't pay as much as he would do if he lived in the UK.
That said, how many on here bemoaning the fact he lives in Monaco wouldn't, given the same opportunities, wouldn't do the same?
- Apr 5, 2014
- 23,597
Is it ? How does one become embarrassed to be British. I'm now embarrassed that I am not embarrassed.
Even the Daily Mail covered the LH race card, with insight from Rio Ferdinand.
https://www.pressreader.com/uk/daily-mail/20190716/283046941055676
Whilst no one ever questioned the British hero status, honours or tax status of Button, Radcliffe, Coulthard or Geraint Thomas.
https://www.pressreader.com/uk/daily-mail/20190716/283046941055676
Whilst no one ever questioned the British hero status, honours or tax status of Button, Radcliffe, Coulthard or Geraint Thomas.
- Apr 5, 2014
- 23,597
Yes, upon that my vote is changed. Knight him.
But get rid of this honours system. It is so outdated.
I'd like to extend the Tony Benn argument, as used by him to defend Christmas.
Everyone likes it and joins people together in celebration of love and unity. What harm is there?
aka Meaningless bollocks that puts a smile on faces.
I am happy with it.
Ironic that Benn was in favour of Christmas but not honours.
Oh well. Never mind.
clapham_gull
Legacy Fan
- Aug 20, 2003
- 25,338
Regarding his tax, it's a bit in the middle isn't it ?
He pays a lot of tax to the UK, employees a number of people (who pay tax) and also pays a lot of tax abroad.
He has however been accused of utilising some questionable mechanisms in the past to lower his tax bills.
He's sold that awful plane now and appears to have cleaned up his image. I voted yes.
He pays a lot of tax to the UK, employees a number of people (who pay tax) and also pays a lot of tax abroad.
He has however been accused of utilising some questionable mechanisms in the past to lower his tax bills.
He's sold that awful plane now and appears to have cleaned up his image. I voted yes.
Black man in the top 5k of tax payers in the country = tax exile
Social media platform paying £28 million tax on £1.6 billion of gross sales = let me just post this selfie, repost this fake news, tell someone from school that I didn’t like much what I had for breakfast and spend a bit of time doing some online stalking.
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Social media platform paying £28 million tax on £1.6 billion of gross sales = let me just post this selfie, repost this fake news, tell someone from school that I didn’t like much what I had for breakfast and spend a bit of time doing some online stalking.
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Seasider78
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- Nov 14, 2004
- 5,939
When you look down the list of sporting knights and dames you really cannot argue that he deserves one.
Whatever anyone thinks of Hamilton or the honours system he has achieved more than half the people on that list
Whatever anyone thinks of Hamilton or the honours system he has achieved more than half the people on that list
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
For driving the best car around in a circle. Nah.
Hampster Gull
New member
- Dec 22, 2010
- 13,462
There might be an argument that racing cars and bikes isn't sport, I’d disagree but its an argument that will roll.
To frame Hamiltons achievements though, F1 is though the pinnacle of car racing in the world. He came into F1 and won the championship in his second year. His team mate in the first year was Alonso, a multiple champion. Hamilton was so fast he ruffled feathers and Alonso left after that first year. Looking back at the greats, Senna took 5 years to win his first title, Prost 6 years and Schumacher got the closest with 3 years.
His climb to the top, where differences in cars are less and where they often run the same chassis and or engine, was meteoric. He won F3 at his second attempt, and F2 at his first. Senna was even better, winning FF1600, FF2000 (the two champs then below F3) and then F3 all at his first attempt before ignoring F2 level and going straight to F1, perhaps a reason it took him longer to land his first title.
But its really difficult to compare different generations, as with other sports and other things in life, and i think unnecessary. But in terms of being one of the greats in the field he competes, however thats defined, its indisputable.
Wrong-Direction
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- Mar 10, 2013
- 13,427
Is racing harder than darts..
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Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
So does Bottas.
The physical strain and G force on his body makes him an athlete. He has to be.
Randy McNob
Now go home and get your f#cking Shinebox
- Jun 13, 2020
- 4,464
Yeah its a great acheivement compared within the "sport"
It's still more about the car though, no one wins the tour de France cos they have a better bike or wins at rowing cos they have a better boat
Billy the Fish
Technocrat
Yes he should be.
However, people are allowed to not like him without being accused of racism. I've warmed to him recently as he's grown up but earlier in his career he came across as a spoilt brat. Look at all the sh1t Beckham had thrown at him over the years, was there implied racism there?
Brits find it hard to relate to a show off, it's as simple as that.
However, people are allowed to not like him without being accused of racism. I've warmed to him recently as he's grown up but earlier in his career he came across as a spoilt brat. Look at all the sh1t Beckham had thrown at him over the years, was there implied racism there?
Brits find it hard to relate to a show off, it's as simple as that.