[News] Furlough

Harry Wilson's tackle · Mar 28, 2020

Machiavelli said:
I also googled it, strongly expecting some contorted porn move, and all I got was some South Park band. Perhaps I didn't dig as deep as you

You don't want to be doing that, especially in these days of social distancing. Not even two's company, three's certainly a crowd, and....

sparkie · Mar 29, 2020

Pretty pink fairy said:
can an employer ask you to work while being on furlough, just asking thanks
Regards
DF

No. Furlough means you are not allowed to lift a finger for the company.

SeagullinExile · Mar 29, 2020

The Andy Naylor Fan Club said:
I am also classed as a furloughed worker, I had an in depth email yesterday and it set out what I can and cannot do in relation to working. It states that I can go and do work as a volunteer or take a temporary job with another company whilst on furlough leave. It's my responsibility to look in to the tax implications but I am to return to my main employer once our shops re-open.

We've been told we can work a temp job and it won't effect furlough payment. Just has tax implications. Normally my contract wouldn't allow it, these restrictions have been lifted by my employers. Lots of people work two jobs anyway, so no different with the rest of us.

kingcole · Mar 29, 2020

Being able to furlough staff has been a lifeline for our company. It means we can plan and have a decent exit plan when things start to return to normal. Like other employers I had a number of questions. Some have already been answered on this thread but here are answers to some of the questions I had.

The furloughed wage is based on PAYE for February 2020
As has already been confirmed, you can dip in and dip out. The minimum period an employer can claim for a member of staff is 3 weeks.
If staff being furloughed have a variable salary then the average they earned in the last year can be used. This was a great relief for one of our commission based field sales chaps who had a terrible February.

clarkey · Mar 29, 2020

kingcole said:
Being able to furlough staff has been a lifeline for our company. It means we can plan and have a decent exit plan when things start to return to normal. Like other employers I had a number of questions. Some have already been answered on this thread but here are answers to some of the questions I had.

The furloughed wage is based on PAYE for February 2020
As has already been confirmed, you can dip in and dip out. The minimum period an employer can claim for a member of staff is 3 weeks.
If staff being furloughed have a variable salary then the average they earned in the last year can be used. This was a great relief for one of our commission based field sales chaps who had a terrible February.

Is his salary variable or his earnings?

kingcole · Mar 29, 2020

clarkey said:
Is his salary variable or his earnings?

I don’t understand the questions. What he earns is paid to him via his salary, as PAYE.

Anyone who earns commission and has is in employment EARN their SALARY and by default, as commission changes each month then their earning, salary, pay, wage or whatever you care to call it are variable.

Tim Over Whelmed · Mar 29, 2020

Uncle C said:
whats a furlough?

about a quarter of a mile?

Pretty pink fairy · Mar 29, 2020

Brighton Lines said:
Didn't think of you as a union man....

You need to stop pidgeon holing people unless you were being sarcastic ?, I've got a few spare caps but I'm saving them for the usual suspects :wink:

Regards
DF

The Andy Naylor Fan Club · Mar 29, 2020

Tim Over Whelmed said:
about a quarter of a mile?

Approx 1/8 of a mile. :smile:

Tim Over Whelmed · Mar 29, 2020

The Andy Naylor Fan Club said:
Approx 1/8 of a mile.

.....

clarkey · Mar 29, 2020

kingcole said:
I don’t understand the questions. What he earns is paid to him via his salary, as PAYE.

Anyone who earns commission and has is in employment EARN their SALARY and by default, as commission changes each month then their earning, salary, pay, wage or whatever you care to call it are variable.

I'm assuming he has a base salary, which is fixed. He then earns sales based commission on top which is variable. His total earnings are variable, but there is a fixed element in there, his salary. It is most likely only the salary element that is eligible for 80%, not the variable commission part.

That's how it is working out for the recruitment agency I work for anyway.

Dr. No · Mar 29, 2020

Pretty pink fairy said:
can an employer ask you to work while being on furlough, just asking thanks
Regards
DF

El Presidente said:
Calling [MENTION=34942]Dr. No[/MENTION]

No.

Machiavelli · Mar 29, 2020

Pretty pink fairy said:
You need to stop pidgeon holing people unless you were being sarcastic ?, I've got a few spare caps but I'm saving them for the usual suspects
Regards
DF

What is a pidgeon? And where are its holes?

Herr Tubthumper · Mar 29, 2020

Pretty pink fairy said:
can an employer ask you to work while being on furlough, just asking thanks
Regards
DF

I’m sure your care worker can explain the answer to you.

kingcole · Mar 29, 2020

clarkey said:
I'm assuming he has a base salary, which is fixed. He then earns sales based commission on top which is variable. His total earnings are variable, but there is a fixed element in there, his salary. It is most likely only the salary element that is eligible for 80%, not the variable commission part.
That's how it is working out for the recruitment agency I work for anyway.

Its the average of the total pay check. This includes basic plus commission

Weststander · Mar 29, 2020

kingcole said:
Its the average of the total pay check. This includes basic plus commission

It’s not, sadly.

Pretty pink fairy · Mar 30, 2020

Dr. No said:
No.

No shit !
Regards
DF

Pretty pink fairy · Mar 30, 2020

Herr Tubthumper said:
I’m sure your care worker can explain the answer to you.

You take care :dunce:

Regards
DF

hans kraay fan club · Mar 30, 2020

The answer to the original question, (Can your employer ask you to work, whilst furloughed?) is No...

However, mine has just told me that they've checked legally, and that once furloughed (most likely by next week) it is okay for us to VOLUNTEER to do a little bit.

In our case I think this is entirely fair enough, tbh - for myself it will just involve checking the post, and doing some security checks at our empty premises a couple of times a week. Not a lot to ask, given my employer will still be paying a fair bit of my (full) salary.

Postman Pat · Mar 30, 2020

hans kraay fan club said:
The answer to the original question, (Can your employer ask you to work, whilst furloughed?) is No...

However, mine has just told me that they've checked legally, and that once furloughed (most likely by next week) it is okay for us to VOLUNTEER to do a little bit.

In our case I think this is entirely fair enough, tbh - for myself it will just involve checking the post, and doing some security checks at our empty premises a couple of times a week. Not a lot to ask, given my employer will still be paying a fair bit of my (full) salary.

Not sure this is allowed either:

Once you are on furlough you will not be able to work for your employer, but you can undertake training or volunteer subject to public health guidance, as long as you’re not:

making money for your employer
providing services to your employer

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/check-if-you-could-be-covered-by-the-coronavirus-job-retention-scheme

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