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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


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GrizzlingGammon

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Dec 15, 2018
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is it worth pointing out the Japanese don't really eat cheese?

But it gives the government one up on the EU. Their deal with Japan didn't include cheese (because the Japanese do not really eat it).
Ours will, and it will make no difference whatsoever.

Something for the gammon to cheer.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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But it gives the government one up on the EU. Their deal with Japan didn't include cheese (because the Japanese do not really eat it).
Ours will, and it will make no difference whatsoever.

Something for the gammon to cheer.

All this Brexit bullshit just so we can flog cheddar to a nation that doesn’t eat the stuff :lolol:

Rule Britannia!
 


Herr Tubthumper

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We got our best man on the job: Liz Truss.

The problem is that I guess every potential trading partner knows we are negotiating from a position of weakness. Send a gunboat?

Weakness? Given the figures quoted in the press yesterday, a whopping 20% GDP shrinkage, it’s a position of desperation.

Just to put this 20% in context, Germany’s is under half the UK figure.
 




WATFORD zero

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Jul 10, 2003
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All this Brexit bullshit just so we can flog cheddar to a nation that doesn’t eat the stuff :lolol:

Rule Britannia!

It just about sums up the complete ineptitude of the Brexit 'leadership', the people who bought it without any questioning, and the PM and Government it has resulted in.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53737388

A trade deal to a country where 70% are lactose intolerant, getting stopped by the UK's International Trade Secretary over cheese. You really couldn't make it up :lolol:

Tick tock
 
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daveinplzen

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Aug 31, 2018
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After January, protected designation of origin makes its brexit, and then,, ANYBODY can make English Cheddar, Wensleydale, Stilton, and other cheese we are famous for, and probably some that will be much, much cheaper.
 
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Randy McNob

Now go home and get your f#cking Shinebox
Jun 13, 2020
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It just about sums up the complete ineptitude of the Brexit 'leadership', the people who bought it without any questioning, and the PM and Government it has resulted in.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53737388

A trade deal to a country where 70% are lactose intolerant, getting stopped by the UK's International Trade Secretary over cheese. You really couldn't make it up :lolol:

Tick tock

don't forget that these trade deals will mean losing far more than the gain. If using Cheese as an example we're trying to flog a tiny bit to Japan whilst also losing alot of business closer to home. It'll be losing a pound to win a penny from here on in, which they'll no doubt be cheering to the rafters.
 


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Mo Gosfield

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Aug 11, 2010
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After January, protected designation of origin makes its brexit, and then,, ANYBODY can make English Cheddar, Wensleydale, Stilton, and other cheese we are famous for, and probably some that will be much, much cheaper.

We already make many varieties of Brie and Camembert in the UK. The French and Germans have been producing their own Emmental ( Swiss ) for years. The Europeans have been producing Cheddar for a long time but the UK market is pretty solid. Ireland does a lot of dairy business here, particularly block cheddar. The only real change to our dairy industry will be if we increase our trading with Aus/NZ again, where we historically imported huge amounts from. We are now one of the largest producers of local artisan ( farmhouse ) cheeses in the world, which includes all manner of top of the range extra mature/vintage cheddars. The volume area ( standard Mild/Mature ) has always been up for grabs and Australia will be eyeing this up.
 






Randy McNob

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Jun 13, 2020
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We already make many varieties of Brie and Camembert in the UK. The French and Germans have been producing their own Emmental ( Swiss ) for years. The Europeans have been producing Cheddar for a long time but the UK market is pretty solid. Ireland does a lot of dairy business here, particularly block cheddar. The only real change to our dairy industry will be if we increase our trading with Aus/NZ again, where we historically imported huge amounts from. We are now one of the largest producers of local artisan ( farmhouse ) cheeses in the world, which includes all manner of top of the range extra mature/vintage cheddars. The volume area ( standard Mild/Mature ) has always been up for grabs and Australia will be eyeing this up.

I've heard of Somerset Brie which is similar but you can tell the difference (not quite as good) but I think under EU law it has to be clearly labelled as such. Presumably from 2021 the rest of the EU can make our cheeses rather than buy them off us? unless we agree a trade deal
 


GrizzlingGammon

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Dec 15, 2018
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I've heard of Somerset Brie which is similar but you can tell the difference (not quite as good) but I think under EU law it has to be clearly labelled as such. Presumably from 2021 the rest of the EU can make our cheeses rather than buy them off us? unless we agree a trade deal

The Americans don't like the protected status of foods. Depends how much influence they have.
 




sydney

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Jul 11, 2003
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We already make many varieties of Brie and Camembert in the UK. The French and Germans have been producing their own Emmental ( Swiss ) for years. The Europeans have been producing Cheddar for a long time but the UK market is pretty solid. Ireland does a lot of dairy business here, particularly block cheddar. The only real change to our dairy industry will be if we increase our trading with Aus/NZ again, where we historically imported huge amounts from. We are now one of the largest producers of local artisan ( farmhouse ) cheeses in the world, which includes all manner of top of the range extra mature/vintage cheddars. The volume area ( standard Mild/Mature ) has always been up for grabs and Australia will be eyeing this up.

i have 2 transit vans and A merc sprinter full of Wensleydale....whats the chances...??:lol:
 


Jan 30, 2008
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I've heard of Somerset Brie which is similar but you can tell the difference (not quite as good) but I think under EU law it has to be clearly labelled as such. Presumably from 2021 the rest of the EU can make our cheeses rather than buy them off us? unless we agree a trade deal

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nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
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Government have been pretty cavalier over the past 4 years towards the now shrinking 168k employed in UK automotive manufacturing

British Volt very much reliant on support from the governments automotive transformation fund, lets hope its a success. We need something significant in the sector
 




nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
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So next month David Frost leaves his job negotiating the UK-EU trade deal and becomes the unelected National Security Advisor with no experience...

Who's taking over Chris Grayling?
 


Randy McNob

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Jun 13, 2020
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Government have been pretty cavalier over the past 4 years towards the now shrinking 168k employed in UK automotive manufacturing

British Volt very much reliant on support from the governments automotive transformation fund, lets hope its a success. We need something significant in the sector

and a free trade agreement is imperative, Borisś australian style agreement would be detrimental to this
 


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