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I think you know the point I'm making. ie that those at the top end of religion are striving to retain the power and wealth generated over centuries and in some cases will do anything to protect the religion and it's property.

That probably depends whether your season ticket is at the Amex or at Selhurst Park!

Funny you should mention pay and the accumulation of wealth. Doesn't that chap the Pope preside over a pretty rich organisation?

If that's what tickles your fancy then fair enough. Just give me a shout when the great Peter Ward is reincarnated! As for your 'how can some-thing (consciousness) come out of no-thing and then return to no-thing' doesn't that apply to creation. Took 7 days and then, as I understand...

I think you worry too much. Live your three score and ten as well as you can and hope that once you're dead, those that you leave behind have good memories of you.

What a load of gibberish. I don't believe that there is a power that consciously decides what happens. Equally, I don't accept that there was a conscious power that created the 'soup'. It was just coincidence that at some point the right chemicals in the right environment came together. Who...

Have been away so can't be arsed to read the whole thread so apologies if repeating what has already been said. My view depends on what you think God actually is. Is it a word to describe fate? ie fate saw the amalgamations of a hotch potch of elements and one of those concoctions proved to...