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That all sounds correct. But now you're just guessing. Their statement that they can't take action against Barnes means they're not even investigating it, it doesn't mean they have investigated it (which would be a waste of their time) and that they wish they could ban him but can't.

I don't agree. Just because Barnes didn't commit an offense doesn't mean that Matic didn't end up on the wrong side of an accidental collision, that at least slightly mitigates his reaction.

But in neither case where they having to stretch for the ball because they were being challenged. In the case in question, your honour, Ash is already leaving his trailing leg before Matic arrives. :facepalm: I knew you'd jump to the wrong conclusion. Surely we can agree that there are two...

But if he'd been given a yellow for the first, he's more likely to have been more cautious later in the game.

Yet more disgusting images of violence in the game. I'm starting to question whether I should continue to watch a sport which has become a barbaric spectacle more at home in the colosseum.

Likewise. Maybe this is the main reason we disagree - he's moving forward quite quickly when making the pass, so his weight is completely leaving his left leg and had no challenge come in, he'd have landed on his right leg with no weight on his left at all. I know what you mean about leaving it...

I think that's complete guesswork. In the real time video it's so fast it's impossible to judge what Barnes is thinking after Matic slid in. You can't use slow-mo to work out what Barnes is thinking either. Barnes passed the ball. He would have suddenly become aware he was on the receiving end...

Ok, sorry I sometimes just see a post in isolation. I think he'd have got booked if he apologised, and I don't think he committed an offence. It depends on my mood at the time, whether I'd just been on the receiving end of a challenge from Terry, or whether I felt that Matic was coming in late...

Thanks to 8th battalion East Lancs, it seems fairly clear that Barnes's follow through was just how he plays football. Barnes has done nothing at all wrong, and Matic is just lucky that his late, mistimed tackle, didn't result in a nasty injury for himself.

Fair enough, I take it all back, that is ****ing reckless. The FA needs to do something now, or he'll carry on until he ends someone's career.

Of course he was looking at the ball, he played the ball. Showing a still from a few thousandths of a second after he's hit the ball don't show he wasn't looking at it. IF he was just making a pass, and the collision was an accident due to Matic's late arrival, then Barnes didn't commit a foul...

Well that should be the argument, but every time someone says 'Barnes's challenge' or similar, it gives the impression of, well, Barnes making a challenge. And to say he got to it first also suggest two players are rushing to the ball, and Barnes gets there first, but dangerously - which would...

Just to be more specific, Barnes had the ball in the first place, they weren't both chasing after a loose ball. I'm sure you know that, it's just that 'Barnes gets to the ball first' makes it sound like he didn't already have it. He didn't even win the ball, it was his the whole time!

You haven't watched the full clip have you. It wasn't a challenge!

Matic could have easily had a snapped leg, but he was the idiot making the challenge.